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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jpet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar. 2017 at 1:28pm
The mold photo you are comparing it to is the inside mold.  Here is an outside mold comparison:


The tines on my "E" don't appear as wide.  This is because on the mold, the edges are tapered like this:

 

I did not radius or chamfer any edges on this die yet.

Where did this pic come from? 

Outside of Fred's windshield?  The reason I ask is that this does not look like the outer casting that Fred sent me.  (see above pic).  The tines look much narrower.  The molds I have do not have these characteristics.

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Side of Fred's hood?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jpet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar. 2017 at 1:40pm
It looks to me like an inside stamping. Duh! can't be an inside stamp because then the letters would be backwards.

Edit:  Fred's outer stamping is 6-1/2" long.


Edited by jpet - 22 Mar. 2017 at 2:40pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dmac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar. 2017 at 1:46pm
I know Rick, I just hate to see the buba effort he puts forth. Wink Jeff always blows me away with his work Clap
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Jeff:

That cleaned-off metal photo shows the JEEP stamping on CJ2-26's windshield, taken in front of the windshield showing the letters in relief. 

Here is a photo taken yesterday of the JEEP stamping on the outside side of CJ2-26's hood, which is still mostly painted.  Again, the letters are in relief.  But my eyes occasionally play tricks on me when viewing this photo, switching the letters back and forth from relief to depression. But they are, in fact, in relief. 

The presence of paint balloons the letters, as if dressing them in a puffy snowsuit:



The hood, windshield, body tub and other parts were sent off to the sandblaster yesterday.  So in a week or so, upon their return, I can take more photos of the JEEP stampings devoid of all paint and very clean. 




Edited by Fred Coldwell - 22 Mar. 2017 at 2:09pm
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Yeah, I corrected my previous post.  The photo definitely gives the illusion of being depressed but obviously its not or the letters would be backwards.

That pic looks more like the molds you gave me.  but it looks nothing like this photo:



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The photo I posted came from Fred.  I think it is the same location as where the mold was made.
 
Fred:  Did you create the mold from the same location?
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Originally posted by Todd Paisley Todd Paisley wrote:

The photo I posted came from Fred.  I think it is the same location as where the mold was made.  Fred:  Did you create the mold from the same location?


Yes.  The mold was made from the JEEP stamping on CJ2-26's windshield panel.
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More progress today as I removed the rusted T90-A transmission and model 18 transfer case assembly and cross member, leaving a mostly clean frame. After I remove the bell crank (which was fighting me all day today), broken upper front bumper gussets, axles, springs and serial number tag, the frame should be ready to be sand blasted. Tongue

 
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Originally posted by Fred Coldwell Fred Coldwell wrote:





I'm having the devil's own time trying to make these letters pop out!  At first glance, they looked pressed in, then I saw them properly, but now they are pressed in again and I can't make them come out.  This is like those "magic 3-D" pics from 20+ years ago, where I could see the images but they looked inward where they were supposed to be outward.  It's kinda annoying.
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Originally posted by Ol' Unreliable Ol' Unreliable wrote:

......I'm having the devil's own time trying to make these letters pop out!  At first glance, they looked pressed in, then I saw them properly, but now they are pressed in again and I can't make them come out. ....

Turn the picture upside down:


.... weird, huh.
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Originally posted by jpet jpet wrote:

Originally posted by Ol' Unreliable Ol' Unreliable wrote:

......I'm having the devil's own time trying to make these letters pop out!  At first glance, they looked pressed in, then I saw them properly, but now they are pressed in again and I can't make them come out. ....

Turn the picture upside down:

.... weird, huh.

creepy is more like it, lol
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I'd really like to get some pics of the hood stamping when it returns from sand blasting to compare it.  

Since the "E"s in the hood stamp have more forgiving radii in the outer corners, I would prefer to have that liberty on my die.
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FRED/JEFF

Just a thought...

You might have them mask off the stamping on whichever side of the hood has more paint and less corrosion. Strip this area with chemical paint remover. The good stuff with MEK and a steel wool pad.
You should be able to see the draw marks from the tooling.

Or maybe do this to one side before it goes to the blaster? You can't see this after blasting.
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Joe and Jeff:

Joe - the hood and outer windshield from CJ2-26 have gone to the sandblaster, so it too late to remove paint chemically.  Jeff - I'll take many good close-up photos of the 3 JEEP stampings when the hood and windshield return from the sandblaster.  I don't have an estimated return date, but suspect it might be sometime next week.
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Jeff:  What do you mean by the radii of the E is more forgiving?  The radius in yellow or red?  Looks to me that the yellow is pretty much the same.
 
 


Edited by Todd Paisley - 23 Mar. 2017 at 11:11pm
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Oh.  We will have to wait until Fred gets that back to make the call.  I think once it is blasted, it will look the same.  There is a lot of paint chipping and peeling there.
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