Identification help CJ or GPW?

I see a GPW frame, a badly-butchered G503 windshield frame, a (possibly) G503 hood, and a CJ grille.  GPW clutch and brake pedals, and a severely-Bubba'd G503 body tub.  Have you posted these pics at G503.com?  There are folks there who are eagle-eyed G503 specialists.

Yeah, I missed that----a semi-floating rear axle instead of full-floating.  That came from a CJ.

Look at the front crossmember, if it's round it's a Willys, if it's a square channel it's a Ford GPW frame. Rear diff is CJ. Look at the dash. If there is one light above the gauges it's a CJ tub, if two lights it's a WWII tub. If you can see the top of the tranny count the bolts holding the shifter on; 4 = T84 (WWII), 6 = T90 (CJ). Look at the rebound clamps on the springs. If they're flat sheet metal wrapped around the spring they're Willys, if they are a U shaped piece with a bolt thru to clamp the spring they are GPW. Also note that the leaves in a Willys spring are square cut while the Fords are angle cut. Those are some quick ways to narrow down what you have. However, keep in mind that in 70 years lots of parts get swapped and replaced.

Ford GPW


Willys

here's pretty definitive proof I have ford not a willys. Also, I found some brackets with the F script stamped in them. So, is it possible to do a willys clone by keeping the engine/ drive train and frame then slapping on a different tub?

well when I bought it (not really knowing much about old jeeps), my plan was to restore it to factory condition and drive around town. Being that it's a "jeep salad" maybe my best option it to part out what I can and look for another, more complete willys. Honestly, I've learned so much from this forum, I would love to do a build of my own.

Sorry, rocketeer not logger.

Just an opinion, ymmv... most of the great unwashed (non willys folks, lol) wouldn't know a GPW from a 2A, and these forums are full of stories of folks seeing 3B and relating how they drove one "in the war" ...all they know is flatties are cool, and they are.

Edited by mbullism - 23 Mar. 2017 at 9:17pm

A Ford WWII GPW is much desired and deserves to be restored as such. It's not a restoration to be taken lightly, however. Willys are very much easier to restore than a GPW. Hunting down correct "F" parts can be time consuming, frustrating, and expensive. If it were mine I would look into selling it and buying a Willys. Considering a GPW's value I suspect you will come out ahead. Ask around on G503.com for value suggestions.

I don't think I would part it out. See if you can find the frame serial number on the top of the drivers side frame (around the engine mount)and see if it matches the tag on the glove box. Also see how many parts such as engine/head are gpw. From my experience, if it runs and will drive under its own power it will be worth as much together as it would be parted out(and its less work).
I was sort of in the same boat, had a 43 gwp that needed alot of work. It gets expensive when you start adding up gpw parts to stay somewhat original and its harder to find used parts local, so I sold it to a collector and the funds went into the 2a build.