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danover321
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Posted: 20 May 2014 at 8:54pm |
Hello everyone, I was curious if anyone out there has used main bearings, rod bearings, or piston rings from Omix-ADA and can comment on the overall experience and quality? I've only used USA parts like Federal, Grant, and Hastings for my personal builds. My neighbor purchased a complete rebuild kit from Omix for his CJ3A and is wanting me to use the parts on his engine rebuild as he has already spent the money for the kit. Any useful comments would be greatly appreciated.
Dan P.S. I plan on staying with name brands for my personal builds! Edited by danover321 - 20 May 2014 at 8:57pm |
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F.T.S.
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danover321
Stay with parts you know. There are a lot of bad foren parts out there. Tell your friend to take the kit back and use what you know is good. F.T.S.
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jeeper50
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Good name brand bearings are availible at your local auto parts
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cpt logger
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Dan, here is my take on this: Will your neighbor remember that you advised against using these parts, or is he going to blame you for the failure of his engine when these parts cause it to seize? IME, he will blame YOU!!
I would refuse to use these parts and explain why I refuse. If he does not understand, I would ask him to take his engine to another shop. "I value your friendship more then the $$ or beer I get for doing your engine overhaul." For me it is all about reputation! I overhaul aircraft engines for a living. It is critical for me to do an excellent job, and to do that, I use quality parts from known manufacturers. If he is too cheap to buy quality parts, is he going to spend the $$ to give his engine the maintenance it needs? I doubt it. Remember, in his eyes, YOU are the expert, and if his engine fails, it will be (at least partly), YOUR FAULT! Don't do it. IHTH, Cpt Logger. |
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johnnybravo
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X10! Just curious as why he did not inquire with you about what to buy.
Edited by johnnybravo - 21 May 2014 at 11:52am |
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flatfender47
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If his bearings are re-boxed known brands, then go for it.
Any stamps or brand markings on the bearings? |
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danover321
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Hello everyone, first, thank you for your responses! My neighbor had his block machined approximately two years ago and purchased the kit from an online vendor who I'm guessing drop ships from Omix. All the parts are generic wrapped in plastic with the only identifiable markings being the sizes .040 Pistons, .020 Rods, and .020 Mains. The parts were shipped from the Omix warehouse in a generic box. My neighbor is retired on a fixed income, elderly, and believed he was getting a good deal on the complete rebuild kit. I have warned him repeatedly about the suspect quality of the parts; however, he is insistent on using them. I'm leaning towards not building the engine for him as not to cause problems in the future if something catastrophic happens to the engine. I was mainly looking for some input from someone who might have used Omix-ADA engine parts in the past and has first hand knowledge.
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cpt logger
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Many many years ago, I helped a fellow rebuild his Pontiac engine with parts from J C Whitney. The bearings and rings came in plain white boxes and had no identifying marks on them except the sizing.
It was a major disaster! The rings never did seat in and the bearings started to come apart as soon as the engine started. We replaced the bearings with maybe 30 minutes run time. The rings wore fast, but it never did stop burning oil. He put 6,000 miles on it and we rebuilt it again with quality parts, bored cylinders, reground crank, and lots of cussing! Last I heard, it had 95,000 miles on it and it was going strong! IMHO, if the manufacturer is not proud enough of their product to put their name on them, then they know that they are making JUNK! Obviously this may or may not apply to your situation, as it was years ago, and not Omix-ADA, but how much is your time worth? You will probably have to redo this engine again! Of course, if a rod goes through the side of the block, you will not have to rebuild this one. You get to try again on another block! What fun!! I understand being on a fixed income. That makes it much more important for you to help him get the most "bang for his buck" that you can. Using questionable parts is not saving him any $$ at all. He should understand that redoing this rebuild because of bad parts is going to cost him much more in the long run then it will cost him to buy quality parts in the first place. IHTH, Cpt Logger. |
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Carlsjeep
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Dan, Omix parts have a very bad reputation. However, with that said, many of the name brand USA parts such as Federal Mogul and other USA name brands are now made overseas. Automotive machine shops use those parts but only the names they trust.
If your just trying to help your neighbor out make him understand you will NOT guarantee the overhaul in any way. Build the engine as if it is your own engine. Check the clearances and document them and give him a copy of everything you do but tell him your not backing any thing about the rebuild and write it down along with the data you record. Have a witness with you when you give him the engine and data sheet and have everyone sign it. Don't charge him anything for the work. Building his engine is good practice for doing yours.
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danover321
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Hi everyone, I managed to talk my neighbor out of using the Omix parts. Luckily, I had some usable pistons and valves he could utilize. Additionally, I ordered Federal (Sealed Power) main bearings, rod bearings, cam bearing, rings, and Fel-Pro Gaskit Kit from Advance Auto P$%&s using an online 30% off coupon bringing the total cost to approximately $221.95 Plus Napa Timing gear $49.00 bringing the total to$270.95. Deal made for the pistons, valves, or residual costs is not included. My neighbor was satisfied with the cost.
I am not charging for the build as I'm very familiar with Missouri civil tort. Also, I read Federal Mogul parts are now manufactured in Mexico which was confirmed on the parts packaging. Edited by danover321 - 25 May 2014 at 4:31pm |
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