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I have only attended this years event, not sure if my opinion is of interest.

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Register Jeep, most likely not!
Depends on Location
Most likely to offset cost.

I did very much enjoy the spring reunion, as well as the banquet, the speaker was of interest for a non Jeep topic. Personally I would prefer an inside meal, it's dry and air conditioned and no bugs......

Distance is a big deal for most, for me to bring a Jeep, 1200 miles round trip or more makes it not happen unless there is Jeeping to be done there!.

Whatever you decide most will be happy with.

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I don't mean to derail the thread, but it is pertinent to your discussion.

Mine is a 20x30 free span "frame tent" that is fire code rated for commercial use. That's why with the 10 foot curtains it was $4800 almost 20 years ago. It is a real PITA to store and transport.

I don't know what you are looking at. A "pole tent" with 13 0unce vinyl?
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Oh, and for my opinion(s) regarding your original questioning:

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* My answer(s) are in favor of the majority concenus....... However, regarding the meal, I am in favor of an inside meal for the air conditioning, yet would be okay if the timeline was shortened....

Register a Jeep, yes
Attend banquet, yes
Vendor spot, usually do just to help defray costs....


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Originally posted by Lee (MN)<br>Distance is a big deal for most, for me to bring a Jeep, 1200 miles round trip or more makes it not happen unless there is Jeeping to be done there!. <br>Lee <img src=smileys/smiley2.gif border=0 align=middle /> [/QUOTE Lee (MN)
Distance is a big deal for most, for me to bring a Jeep, 1200 miles round trip or more makes it not happen unless there is Jeeping to be done there!.
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That's why I mentioned airport location. It costs me less to go to the Color Tour at Mikes than it did to go to Jeff City.



That's why I mentioned airport location. It costs me less to go to the Color Tour at Mikes than it did to go to Jeff City.
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Its only been 24hrs and we really appreciate those that have replied, but we have a huge following of 2A Page Participants and you all need to speak up in this Poll.
 
It is because we listened to many of you here, that we were able to have the 2016 Reunion in Effingham, IL this year and move it more West after being in Ohio every year beginning in 2009.
 
No response means you do not care where it is, if we have a guest speaker or not, intend to bring a Willys for everyone to enjoy, or intend to participate in the swap meet.
 
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I'm sure there will be a clarification but the way it is stated it sounds like the show was moved to Effingham just to appease a few and it turned out it was just "an average" show so now let's go either back to Hudson or somewhere else (to have another average show).

I understand the 'boots on the ground' thing so that said I vote for moving it back to Hudson.

Since it has been stated that the vendors did well in Effingham and some of the bigger ones don't post here we can only assume that they want to move to a different location instead of working out whatever (non stated) complications were with this location (other than of course the 'boots on the ground)

That said, I have intentionally not voted because more than likely I'm sitting out this year's Fall Reunion and probably next springs as well....to 'regroup' I guess would be a good way to put it.

But in all fairness since you are measuring averages did we pick up alot of "East Coast crowd" like was originally anticipated or was the Hudson show bigger because the Spring show has always been traditionally bigger anyway?

If by some chance I do make it to Hudson I will definately be 'just commuting' and not trailering. (that could change depending on how close to Cinnci the Reunion (if ever) moves.




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Like I said previously I didn't see any need to voice an opinion that would affect others if I wasn't even participating but just a thought on the meal thing......

Thirty bucks buys a pretty decent meal ANYWHERE with some change left over so I'm not so sure about a $30  (or $60) banquet ticket.

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Originally posted by rocnroll rocnroll wrote:

...Thirty bucks buys a pretty decent meal ANYWHERE with some change left over so I'm not so sure about a $30  (or $60) banquet ticket. ....
The banquet ticket was $30 in Effingham, as it was in Hudson the year before. There is no price increase, but you would be eating outdoor on paper plate rather than sitting in door at a table while someone brings you coffee.

Roc, what's your opinion on not having a guest speaker to shave time and some cost?

From my viewpoint, the reason we moved from Hudson to Effingham is because some of us received feedback from long time participants that Hudson was just too far to drive and liked the 2014 Effingham summer show location. We had good numbers of registrations and banquet tickets but less and less jeeps each year. I think the last time in Hudson we had 40 ish jeeps but the weather was not very good.   For these reasons we decided to try Effingham. At first it looked like we were going to have a huge turn out in Effy because the hotels were booking up quickly. At the beginning the hotel count is the only gauge you have because nobody registered till the last couple weeks before the show. Then when the show came, we did have a huge turnout of people ..... but not as many jeeps as we expected. I think 50. We had the Kaiser cars but they would have come to Hudson too. The banquet had 150. That is a great turnout. I suppose I have been gauging our success on jeep count over people count. My bad I guess. The trend I am seeing is that we still have good participation but more and more people are leaving their jeeps home. We had over 50 jeep registrations but some changed their minds at the last minute.

In the end, the Hudson hotel was much easier. The manager and staff appreciated us and if you noticed, the manager was out on the parking lot Friday and Saturday. At Effingham, the hotel manager and banquet manager were not there Saturday, and did not let me know they would not be there. Believe it or not, the Clarion in Hudson was actually easier for me and I live in Effingham area. ....

Ok. That's the Effy/Hudson low down. That doesn't mean we can't have it in Illinois, Indiana or some other place but boots on the ground are very helpful. We have looked into having it somewhere between Hudson and Effy. .... like Crawfordsville, IN. The problem we are running into is that the Indy 500 is the week after the reunion and the hotels are consumed the week before. I'm sure we can block out enough rooms somewhere but when you block rooms out, you need to use them. It's not fair to the hotel to block out 70 rooms and then only 40 people register before the deadline. Then a wave a people try to book a room one week before the reunion and the block has been lifted. That's the gamble you go through when you choose a hotel that will book out with or without you. Hudson does not book out.

I said all that to say this......... If we can find a hotel that is centrally located and within a reasonable distance from Bob and Mindy, we will certainly look into it but if a large majority want to have it at Hudson, then we are not going to keep searching for another hotel that may or may not work out. Make sense? Some people may not want to vote because they don't want the decision to be "all about them". I appreciate that but the truth is. It IS about you. All of you. That is why we do it so please voice your opinion. If you prefer it to be in Effingham or Indiana or wherever but you will still go to Hudson, you may want to vote a 1. If you simply will not go to Hudson, vote "0". If you have suggestions, please feel free to post them even if you don't attend.

Edit: I'm speaking for myself here and not any committee members.

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Originally posted by rocnroll rocnroll wrote:

...Since it has been stated that the vendors did well in Effingham and some of the bigger ones don't post here we can only assume that they want to move to a different location......
if it sways anyone's vote at all, the Sheets have publicly voted

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OK....answering you in order.

$30 last few Reunions....I realize that, doesn't change my statement that $60 can buy a good bit. (or more bang for the buck if 'dining experience' doesn't figure in to what the meal costs)....I know how to throw away paper plates and I don't mind getting my own coffee.

I dunno, maybe that's a good place for an incentive to "bring your Jeep".... costs more for the meal if you don't bring one.....that's what you want, more jeeps on site right?

Speakers?....have heard good and forced myself to stay awake for others.  Really, really hate to miss your presentation in the Fall...should really be entertaining.

Distance?....not the problem. (I vote for Toledo, it IS an anniversary, right) pretty fer piece for this Alabama boy, so was Baraboo, but they were more or less straight shots. The more 'big cities' the more tiring the trip with a trailer...I can drive in traffic but don't like it with a trailer....from me to Hudson, Nashville-Louisville-Cinnci-Columbus

Hudson is fine, so was Kings Island ( for me anyway...really liked it actually. But others had bad experiences there.) so was Effingham (really liked it too)

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I have been coming to these every year since 2000. I have to admit the older I get, the less interested I am in dragging my 2a more than 200 miles. I will attend any where, but whether I bring the jeep or not is going to be decided on distance. I was going to bring mine this year until I saw how far effy was.

When I was the boots on the ground guy in 2007 in Auburn Hills we had 80 jeeps show up and I don't recall how many for the banquet, but it was a good number. Just throwing that out there for past reference point.

From a hotel experience I was really disappointed this year. The maid only came by our room once in the 3 nights we were in it. Replenished coffee supplies would have been nice. The Hudson hotel was much better in that respect.

I personally like the guest speaker part of it as I enjoy hearing what other nerds have dug up on the history. True we've had some yawners for sure - hopefully I was not one of them... I also prefer it to be inside. It feels good to get out of the heat of the day and into a/c. Again that's probably the old man in me now.

Roc- as Jim Allen put it best- nobody in Toledo gives a rip about the history of Jeep. Try as we may, nobody there will even talk to us.

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Bill, I realize that just from past reference....I know they don't, I also feel like that is not just the current regime either.
I was just seeing it as a 'going home' for us more so than 'them'.

Everybody has different expectations as far as motel rooms go (and different experiences accordingly) Mine this year was much like yours but then I didn't partake of the room coffee either so that didn't matter much to me. It was late in the day before the bed was made but I was in the parking lot so it didn't matter (to me)

I had dry towels....really spotty wifi (supposedly because I was on the top floor...worked fine in the lobby)

Did you request early or better room service....?.....that is a legitimate complaint I would say.

It was a very comfy bed with a bunch of pillows so I slept well....that's not what I was there for though.

You get my drift....everybody looks for different things.  Kings Island complaints were numerous (even excluding the 'dog' year).....but I'd go back there tomorrow. Good location, easy access, walking distance eats.  To me that's what is important in a trailering situation.

I wish I had gone to the Auburn Hills woo to doo but didn't......I expect the big numbers had alot to do with the expectations of many to see the Chrysler Museum and the many attractions close by.....but I've been to Detroit with no real need to go back.

Your self imposed 200 mile trailering g range wouldn't get me very far or to too many events.

So therefore, I guess I'll pick and choose where I go.

      (and no, your presentation wasn't one of the 'yawners') LOL






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If Cincinnati hits the radar again, it won't be at the same venue, the Kings Island Inn was torn down last week when I went by there......

Regarding Bill's comment about Auburn Hills, that was Jerry and I's first time attending a show, and due to the number of vehicles, and great small talk, not only about the Willys but also from a vendors point of view,  we were hooked.....

And the meal that year was under an open tent, great weather mind you.....

Why not Bowling Green KY or Nashville Tn direction?  That would help pull more of the Southeast.....

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Yes Mike that would be nice.

Since this seems to be just observations at this point, here is one from where I see it.

Looks like for an average vehicle number we could use about 70 maybe?  60 to 80

Yes, I think you are right....you would pick up a few from the Southeast.....then just as easily you would probably lose a few from the NE.

Let's take it North, say up around Michigan.....probably pick up a few from up that way that haven't come (or brought a Jeep) but then we may be losing a few from 'down South'.

I'm thinking we actually have our 'number of participants' pretty much....

Seems like the incentive to bring a vehicle is what needs attention.

What a dilema. Stern Smile




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Ok, as Jpet mentioned, I found a venue in Michigan that I personally think is really, really cool. I have never been there myself yet, but its on my to do list. We are just looking at it at this point. Its the Gilmore Museum in Hickory Corners, MI. Here is a link if anyone is interested:
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Its on 90 acres with 350+ cars on display at any given time. They have some period buildings, which selfishly I am all over for calendar pic backgrounds. This is half way between Detroit and Chicago on I-94 near Kalamazoo, MI.
 
At this point, here are the pros:
 
Great setting, they will allow us to display our vehicles there, they will allow our vendors to set up there too. They could do lunch for us at their 40s era diner and could accommodate our banquet dinner in their other facility.
 
Cons:
 
They have primitive camping available on site, which I'm guessing not too many people are interested in.Nearest hotel is 5 miles away and its not the most ideal for us.  The closest hotel that could probably accommodate us is 15 miles away. We may be charged to get onto their grounds too- still waiting on an answer for that.
 
That said, does anyone have an opinion on this location? Not sure if the pros outweigh the cons at this point.
 
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Hudson is a pretty good distance for me.  I have enjoyed the setting there as well as the drive through the State Park.  Personally, the issue with Hudson is the timing combined with the distance. The spring reunion usually occurs at the end of the school year. I was able to make Effingham this year, but I would not have been able to make Hudson as we were still in school and we are not allowed time off during the last week or so.
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Honestly Doug, the end of the school year is the reason I impose the 200 mile towing rule on myself. Plus I don't want to be gone more than a couple days as its prime spring sports season for my kids and I try to not miss any games. All day drives means I lose two more days for the trip and it could be longer if I have to tow.  
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