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Red Dog
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Really a neat project with a history going for it! Ohio is a long way from Oregon but maybe one day I will make back there for one of the shows.
Question re: pictures Does anyone know the owner of the red jeep parked just in front of yours at the show with the Wisconsin plates (FNZ 254)? It has what appears to be the same half cab that my '47 has on it and would love to pick the brain of that Jeep owner about it. Thanks, Red Dog |
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I work out at the gym so I can eat cookies!!!!
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48cj2a
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I only see two WI registrations with CJs in my early spreadsheet - I sent them both an email and will let you know.PM Sent - Joe DeYoung's Brothers 3A
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Art C USAF (Retired)
47 CJ2A #134955 Project 48 CJ2A #206759 62 L6226 Station Wagon #58167 10900 45 T3-C #191 Project http://www.bantamt3c.com http://www.48cj2a.com |
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Nick_
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As a side note, I called the previous owner Jim Coop of the APU. He was very excited to hear I finished the project and glad to hear it's being displayed for all to see. I'm going to send him a copy of the Dispatcher this June.
Thanks Bill! It was my first Willys show and it couldn't have been better. That library may be our saving grace being so close to the factory, thanks for getting this setup and definitely let me know what you find. At the show I talked about some manuals Tom found. Here is a Google cloud account I have with all the APU research in one spot. This is the manual section where you can see the: -control box
-ignition -generator https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2AJlfmAKl2remJrb0VCM2JsQjg&usp=sharing&tid=0B2AJlfmAKl2rdGhFUjBpZVoxTEU |
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Jerry45
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Nick, I noticed that the later three wheel body style APU's shown in your Manuel linl actually has four wheels. It was probably a little tippy with three wheels! :)
Jerry |
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1945 CJ-2A #11802
1950? Szekley Navy APU Jeep Bantum BTC-3 Trailer "They can have my Jeep when they pry it from my cold, dead hands." |
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Bill Norris
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Nick,
I finally heard back from the library and they have nothing on Valentine, unfortunately. "I was able to locate the company in the Detroit
City Directories from the 1950s and 1960s.
The city directories listed the address of Valentine Welding &
Manufacturing at 7310 Woodward Ave, R410, in Detroit. The president of the company was C. Elbert
Valentine, Jr. C.E. Valentine served as
Vice-Presidents; and L. Schnieder was the Treasurer. The line of business was indicated as:
welding and cutting. Unfortunately, I
was not able to locate anything on the vehicle conversion work this company was
performing." Bill
Edited by Bill Norris - 15 June 2016 at 6:12pm |
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Holy Toledo! Jeep Calendars and the Dispatcher Jeep magazine
http://dispatchermagazine.com |
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Nick_
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Big news big news!
Today is a historic day. Today... the APU becomes even closer to completion. I present to you: the Jack & Heintz G32 DC aircraft generator! It's just as heavy as it is massive. A 2-man operation was needed to lift this out of the crate. It weighs in at about 80 lbs! Yes, this is the actual correct generator for the NA-4 Jeep. What are the chances a single G32 was for sale, with original paint? I bought this from a guy in North Carolina who was going to use it in an electric car. So of course it's completely tested and in verified working condition! A big thanks to Tom and Arno for helping lead me to this. Some original manuals to top it off. A few of these are for the G32 generator itself, others are about power units of the era in general. It's almost surreal. Now that the Jeep shows are over, I can take my time with the "little" things. The PTO unit shaft spins pretty well, but the shifter is stuck. So this weekend I'll take that off and get it fixed. Then hopefully we install this massive generator. As a side note, I finally had a chance to take apart the gas tank to see what's really going on down there. Look at this unusual divider? The gas tank appears to be made out of aluminum. The Naval anti-spark fuel pump: I wish I had this generator in time for all the Jeep shows. Here is a picture from the Willys Rally in Hueston Woods, Ohio. Once again the APU was a big hit with the crowd. It's always nice to see how much interest the old girl receives. This was about the closest to water it's been in 50 years! I'm still in awe we found the original style generator. Not only is it correct. Not only did it have original paint. But, it was for sale at the time I was searching. I think the stars have aligned.
Hey Bill, thanks for going this far to find some info. My best guess is that Valentine probably wasn't allowed to release information. All the paperwork we've found so far was just declassified in about 2002, which was probably under military order. We'll just have to keep digging in other places. |
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48cj2a
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Congrats on your find!!!It's not uncommon for Classified Material to have a 50 year Derivative so that sounds about right on your release date. Maybe a request to the National Archives or Navy Heraldry...
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Art C USAF (Retired)
47 CJ2A #134955 Project 48 CJ2A #206759 62 L6226 Station Wagon #58167 10900 45 T3-C #191 Project http://www.bantamt3c.com http://www.48cj2a.com |
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jpet
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No Way! Cool score! Now all you need is a plane.
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CJ2A #29110 "General Willys"
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Nick_
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Today the Ford GT won at Le Mans at the 50th anniversary of the GT40 win in 1966, and the APU Jeep mated to a generator for the first time in about 50 years. It's a good day to be an American.
First I pulled the PTO system off the Jeep once again. I unscrewed the shifter, it popped right out and unseized itself. I made sure the generator would slide into the shaft before installing in the Jeep. Next was putting oil into the PTO. A few minutes of bolting up the generator and she was ready to run! It was loud. It was glorious. This is a whole new Jeep. I can't even explain how I feel. |
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Nick_
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I saw the news today, oh boy!
She's a cover girl! And a 5 page center spread. Earning such a spot in this magazine is my top achievement in the Jeep world. A big thanks to The Dispatcher team and their endless support. As for the Jeep itself, it hasn't moved since the last show in Hueston Woods, Ohio. After receiving so much interest in the original gas tank and the anti-spark aircraft fuel pump, I had it professionally cleaned and sealed. We had a buddy's brother perform the job as he's a professional. We hear there was a showdown about leaving the paint and not using the dunk tank for cleaning. My bill was $440...ouch. I'm about to say something I never thought I would. The APU Jeep is for sale on eBay. What? Are you serious? It sounds crazy but I am indeed. I've spent many weeks and talked to quite a few people about this decision. I'm selling this because another opportunity has come my way. At 19 years old, my main priority is to ensure my future is set after college. My goal is to use the money from the APU and invest it in this opportunity, to eventually pay for the down payment for my house right after graduation. I've also realized I enjoy the "chase" of vintage Jeeps. I'm the one who rescued the Jeep from the barn, the one who brought it back to life, found priceless documentation never before surfaced, and helped add to the cult following of APU Jeeps. I brought this to a couple of the biggest Willys reunions in the country and nearly couldn't unload it from the crowds to catch a glimpse. My story was published in the magazine. I live a very busy life with too many hobbies, and the Jeep has been sitting in the warehouse since the last show. This being said, displaying the magazine story on the wall is what I value most about the Jeep. Every day I walk past the Jeep and smile at the great story she is, and now I can do the same with the publication mounted on my wall. I am not an owner but a caretaker. If the Jeep does not hit my reserve, I may forgo the opportunity and keep it forever on private display. I do not want to offend anyone who has graciously helped me along the way, I'm very appreciative to have this experience. I hope you all understand where I'm coming from. |
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rocnroll
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Well said.....and congratulations. Good luck in future endeavors.
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'48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
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berettajeep
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Yes, Well said. Good luck with the sale.
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jpet
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Congrats Nick! ... and nothing wrong with selling the jeep. No doubt it will go to a good home!
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CJ2A #29110 "General Willys"
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RICKG
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Nick, that you are aged 19, have defined goals and are planning for your future speaks volumes about the caliber of young man you are. May your goals be realized and good luck with the sale.
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I never met a mule I didn't like!
MC51986 "OD MULE" DOD 01-52 '50 CJ3A "Bucksnort". Keep 'em Rollin' |
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athawk11
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This will be a very nice addition to someone's collection, whether a private collection or museum. I can't say I'm surprised at your decision to sell it. All I have to do is look back at myself when I was 20 years old. With my limited resources, the things I 'invested' in need to be useful in some way. That said, I'm hopeful that 30 years from now, you don't regret giving this up.
Good luck with the sale! Hawk
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2- 1949 CJ3A |
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Nick_
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Thanks guy for the kind words and wisdom. If I do regret selling the Jeep someday, it would be a very easy vehicle to track down which puts my mind at ease. Age is on my side so there is plenty of time during my life it could be available again. Like I wrote in the original post if the Jeep does not make the reserve, I'll have to make my own private museum and charge the locals. You know I live in a tourist town
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Nick_
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The Jeep didn't meet my reserve last month, and I finally got around to relisting it with a buy-it-now: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Willys-Jet-Starter-Jeep-/272380205458
My dad and I were looking at the listing, and noticed something on the hood numbers. We could faintly see something peeking from behind the lettering. I started filling in 94-X22X9, then my mind started racing. There had to be a meaning. Behold, the data tag on the dash: There we have it! The "original" hood numbers before the repaint were 94-12219 which has a few meanings. One of our APU contacts send me this USN number info a while back. "To your questions: All vehicles of the US Navy had a Navy registration number, for example : 25-0000 Line maintenance jeep 94-00000 Truck , light 1/4 through 1 ton 55-00000 MEPP ( mobile electric power plant ) The Navy changed the registration
number from 94-00000 to 55-00000 in 1951/52. But you could sometimes find both numbers until 1956. The 55-00000 stands for all MEPP`s,
for example NB-1 and NC-7." |
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SE Kansas 46 CJ-2A
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If anyone wants to see Navy APU's in action on a carrier deck, you can see them in one scene during the movie "The Bridges at Toko-Ri".(1954)
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46 CJ-2A #64462 "Ol' Red" (bought April 1969)(second owner)(12 V, 11" brakes, M-38 frame, MD Juan tub)
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