11" brake upgrade hub parts needed

I have the kit to upgrade my front brakes to 11” on my CJ2A front axle, I have Warn M3B Lock-O-Matic hubs. Are there any parts I should purchase for the hubs when the upgrade is done.

Thanks

Yes my hubs are working, I'm not a brake kinda guy. I am bringing it over to a friens house who has a lift in his garage, my concern is hitting a snag due to needing some part to finish the upgrade, gasket or something that could be needed for the hubs.

An excellent primer on this can be found here

https://cj3b.info/Tech/Brakes11inch.html

Chug A Lug
1948 2A Body Customized
1949 3A W/S
1957 CJ5 Frame Modified
Late 50's 134L 9.25"clutch T90A D18 (1.25") D44/30 flanged E-Locker D25 5.38 Since 1962

the wheel cylinder setup you received will probably use the hose from a mid seventies jeep long hose that threads into wheel cylinder and will require the hose guard to be removed for clearance and connected to the hardline at the axle tube. this leaves a loop of flexline above the wheel cyl and makes it harder to bleed air out of your system as long as your mechanic is aware then all is good or you can have him install the different wheel cyl from a f350 rear axle (info in link and "Z" brakeline) to have a setup similar to what it looks like now. either way is fine and you will love the bigger brakes, I have my stock master cylinder on my jeeps with the 11" brakes no issues at all.

As far as hub parts goes, I am not familiar with the hubs you have but I have used RTV in place of the paper gasket where it bolts to the hub.

the jeep 15" rims have clearance issues with the finned drums if that what you have, www.rockauto.com has nonfinned drums for $29 each if you need them, just look up parts for a '72 cj5

Edited by jeeper50 - 11 Sep. 2017 at 12:02am

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here's a parts breakdown for the lockamatics

http://hermtheoverdriveguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Lockomatic-hub.jpg

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Yes they work with stock lug bolts, but you can replace them with longer studs, but the mid 70's lug bolts have a different spline dia, so some research is necessary. I have been running the 11" brakes with stock bolts for the last 11 yrs- no issues.

found my post about that very thing

https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/longer-wheel-studs_topic36380.html?KW=

Edited by jeeper50 - 19 Sep. 2017 at 1:50pm

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Boxbirder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 06 Mar. 2016 Location: NJ Status: Offline Points: 57	Post Options Post Reply Quote Boxbirder Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 11" brake upgrade hub parts needed Posted: 09 Sep. 2017 at 10:19pm
	I have the kit to upgrade my front brakes to 11” on my CJ2A front axle, I have Warn M3B Lock-O-Matic hubs. Are there any parts I should purchase for the hubs when the upgrade is done. Thanks

jeeper50 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 01 Mar. 2008 Location: Spanish Fort AL Status: Offline Points: 2579	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeeper50 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Sep. 2017 at 12:05am
	the 11 inch brakes can be used with any front hub. Are your hubs in working order?
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	Yes my hubs are working, I'm not a brake kinda guy. I am bringing it over to a friens house who has a lift in his garage, my concern is hitting a snag due to needing some part to finish the upgrade, gasket or something that could be needed for the hubs.

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	If you are using Willys pickup or Wagon front 11 inch brakes, the hub and drum are together. The drum is mounted to a bolt circle ring with the lug nut studs. so you will need all including bearings and seals. You also need to change the brake tubing or hose that attaches to the wheel cylinder. And the wheel cylinders are not the same as 2A. Warn hubs that I've got have 3 ring grooves for axles having a snap ring groove in the end of the axle. If you have the castlelated nuts, the hubs are taller and have 5 ring grooves.
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Mark W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 09 Nov. 2014 Location: Silverton, OR Status: Offline Points: 7982	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mark W. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Sep. 2017 at 2:07pm
	An excellent primer on this can be found here https://cj3b.info/Tech/Brakes11inch.html
	Chug A Lug 1948 2A Body Customized 1949 3A W/S 1957 CJ5 Frame Modified Late 50's 134L 9.25"clutch T90A D18 (1.25") D44/30 flanged E-Locker D25 5.38 Since 1962

Boxbirder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 06 Mar. 2016 Location: NJ Status: Offline Points: 57	Post Options Post Reply Quote Boxbirder Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Sep. 2017 at 7:40pm
	Here is the set up I have with the hoses. My axles were redone when I had it restored a few months ago. I am a little excited to get these installed since I have to drive in traffic when I take it to my office. Edited by Boxbirder - 10 Sep. 2017 at 7:42pm

jeeper50 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 01 Mar. 2008 Location: Spanish Fort AL Status: Offline Points: 2579	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeeper50 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Sep. 2017 at 11:52pm
	the wheel cylinder setup you received will probably use the hose from a mid seventies jeep long hose that threads into wheel cylinder and will require the hose guard to be removed for clearance and connected to the hardline at the axle tube. this leaves a loop of flexline above the wheel cyl and makes it harder to bleed air out of your system as long as your mechanic is aware then all is good or you can have him install the different wheel cyl from a f350 rear axle (info in link and "Z" brakeline) to have a setup similar to what it looks like now. either way is fine and you will love the bigger brakes, I have my stock master cylinder on my jeeps with the 11" brakes no issues at all. As far as hub parts goes, I am not familiar with the hubs you have but I have used RTV in place of the paper gasket where it bolts to the hub. the jeep 15" rims have clearance issues with the finned drums if that what you have, www.rockauto.com has nonfinned drums for $29 each if you need them, just look up parts for a '72 cj5 Edited by jeeper50 - 11 Sep. 2017 at 12:02am
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Boxbirder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 06 Mar. 2016 Location: NJ Status: Offline Points: 57	Post Options Post Reply Quote Boxbirder Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Sep. 2017 at 7:58pm
	Dialed up the Z tubing parts and the f350 wheel cylinders. I'll post up some pics once we start the project.

jeeper50 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 01 Mar. 2008 Location: Spanish Fort AL Status: Offline Points: 2579	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeeper50 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Sep. 2017 at 1:49pm
	here's a parts breakdown for the lockamatics http://hermtheoverdriveguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Lockomatic-hub.jpg
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	Since you don't put the drums behind the wheel hubs due to they are wider do you need longer lug bolts since the drum will be in front of the hubs, and will these work with stock willy rims?
	RICH 1947 cj2a (Toy From Hell)

jeeper50 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 01 Mar. 2008 Location: Spanish Fort AL Status: Offline Points: 2579	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeeper50 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep. 2017 at 1:46pm
	Yes they work with stock lug bolts, but you can replace them with longer studs, but the mid 70's lug bolts have a different spline dia, so some research is necessary. I have been running the 11" brakes with stock bolts for the last 11 yrs- no issues. found my post about that very thing https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/longer-wheel-studs_topic36380.html?KW= Edited by jeeper50 - 19 Sep. 2017 at 1:50pm
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