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    Posted: 12 Dec. 2018 at 3:59pm
tompeter, not sure exactly what's happening on your posts but everytime you post an ebay link like that it has a question mark at the end that renders it inaffective....(at least on everything I try to access it with)
 
If you would remove the question mark before you finish your post it will work fine....such as....
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Sure is pretty.......

But that NADA price has me running over to my insurance company to up my declared value....

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..... ... I hear ya! I'm wondering what NADA is on a 2A pickup


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I'm sorry, but I gotta knock about 8k off for the extra holes in the tailgate LOL.  Stuff like that always puts "what else" in the back of my mind-
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That much $ deserves a more correct cj2a.  Wrong rear seat, tale light, no top bow brackets and then I quit looking and moved on.

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Big difference between Wonderful restoration and Correct restoration....
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I guess we have different opinions on restoration, but every one has a right to their opinion.

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I am with Jim on this details, details, details count - Says it is a 1948 - but might be --- 1947.

Looks like a new tub (no bump out for the governor handle, no bow pockets and some strange weld nuts on the fire wall just above the back of the head). 

It has a lot of 1947 features - pre-Monroe draw bar which is correct for a 1947, rear seat is early - but correct for a 1947, Air cleaner wrong for a 1948 but could be right for a 1947, wrong horn for a 1948 but could be correct for a 1947, correct windshield for a 1947 but not for a 1948 (tie down looks like a screw on type - 1948 is welded in place - hard to see for sure),  Correct brake and clutch pedals for a 1947 but not for a 1948 (1948 has those little diamonds not smooth like the 1947 and earlier).  Better pictures might show more 1947ish features.

Still a very nice looking Jeep that could be a 1947 that is titled as a 1948 by a dealer when new and that now has a new tub.  A lot can happen in 70 or 71 years!
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Originally posted by Stev Stev wrote:

I am with Jim on this details, details, details count - Says it is a 1948 - but might be --- 1947.

Looks like a new tub (no bump out for the governor handle, no bow pockets and some strange weld nuts on the fire wall just above the back of the head). 

It has a lot of 1947 features - pre-Monroe draw bar which is correct for a 1947, rear seat is early - but correct for a 1947, Air cleaner wrong for a 1948 but could be right for a 1947, wrong horn for a 1948 but could be correct for a 1947, correct windshield for a 1947 but not for a 1948 (tie down looks like a screw on type - 1948 is welded in place - hard to see for sure) Correct brake and clutch pedals for a 1947 but not for a 1948 (1948 has those little diamonds not smooth like the 1947 and earlier).  Better pictures might show more 1947ish features.

Still a very nice looking Jeep that could be a 1947 that is titled as a 1948 by a dealer when new and that now has a new tub.  A lot can happen in 70 or 71 years!


If I may:

The air cleaner is correct for 1948, however, only part of 1948. The Donaldson air cleaner started showing up in mid-1948...

After April of 1946, the remaining production of CJ2A's, through the 1949 models all received the same inner/outer windshield frames with like features.

The smooth clutch/brake pedals were only correct for 1945 and early 1946 CJ2A's, replaced by the "raised bump" feature in late February/early March 1946.


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Oh no he did’nt! (Lol) LOLLOL
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Please Do!

I am a bit of a 1948 enthusiast.  Always looking for little details.  Are you saying that the welded footman loop at the top of the windshield showed up before 1948?  Is that documented specifically some where? "With like features" are not exactly the same features.  That is the detail I was looking at based on looking at lots of "late CJ2As".  

As for the pedals interesting - Will look for that on 1946 and 1947 going forward.  Their are two types of  pedal patterns some with 6  diamonds across the pedals and some with 7 diamonds.  What years have which pedals for the CJ2As?  I have seen 1947s with no diamonds - what up with that?  Surely they did not just bring parts to the line - no first in first out process at the plant - If that was the case  design changes dates would not always be absolute production changes.

Low - I knew you were a 1945 guy but now a 1948 enthusiast - what else do you see on this fine looking Jeep that is specific to a 1948 and not a 1947 or a late 1946?

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What great information guys... I had NO idea some pedals had 6 or 7 raised diamonds. What about the trailer plug? Should that be found? I'm specifically interested in this thread because I was never able to specifically determine what year my Jeep is... I'm not sure if I have a later 47 with flush parking lights or a 48? 
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Crap... now I have to go count diamonds...

...how am I gonna drive it wih the wrong number of diamonds? LOL

(I'm happy to have pedals)
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Originally posted by ggordon49 ggordon49 wrote:

What great information guys... I had NO idea some pedals had 6 or 7 raised diamonds. What about the trailer plug? Should that be found? I'm specifically interested in this thread because I was never able to specifically determine what year my Jeep is... I'm not sure if I have a later 47 with flush parking lights or a 48? 


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Originally posted by lowenuf lowenuf wrote:

Originally posted by ggordon49 ggordon49 wrote:

What great information guys... I had NO idea some pedals had 6 or 7 raised diamonds. What about the trailer plug? Should that be found? I'm specifically interested in this thread because I was never able to specifically determine what year my Jeep is... I'm not sure if I have a later 47 with flush parking lights or a 48? 



Unfortunately my data tags were gone. I believe my biggest clue might be the color, however I'm not certain which gray it is? Any thoughts? (With respect, I'm sorry for going off topic)


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Tipping my hat to Lowenuf as the historian on this.

The footman loop is welded the windshields on my 1946 and 1948.  The difference I was thinking of was the shape of the footman loop on the 1947/1948.  Granted the elongated shape probably was introduced in 1947 and present on the 1948 - but the one shown on this Yellow Jeep looks like the one on my 1946 not the one on my Lefty 1948.

I look for a combination of cosmetic details and lack of an abundance of older parts that make up what I call 1948ishness.  I still think this Yellow CJ2A in the link has lots of 1947ishness - It would be interesting to see the dates on the engine, transfer case, transmission, fuel pump, axles, voltage regulator, and so on to see if it could be narrowed down.




Edited by Stev - 13 Dec. 2018 at 4:13pm
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   There is no doubt that who ever built the yellow jeep up did a nice job and I would be the last guy to mock him or her for their work but I wouldn't use it to verify originality.  I think it is a salad jeep using parts from different years of production and even possibly repo body.  It looks like it has a cj2a frame with the front frame horn gussets but as mentioned the body has some questionable things about it. To add to the list there is no holes where a under dash coil was mounted.

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I'm looking for the seams on the tub sides below the seats.  Can't see them.  Driver's side step looks like it's not completely connected.  I wouldn't use the word "restored" for this Jeep.  I'd call it repaired, and nicely too, but not "restored".
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