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    Posted: 15 May 2017 at 1:42am
My apologies not strictly 2a related here, but I value the collective Willys knowledge here...

RMC M38 L134 block

Late m38 sealed bell housing w/o starter bushing

Looking for a little backup that a MDM 6005 closed nosed starter (listed for 3B's and early 5's with F heads) is correct, 9 tooth bendix on a 124 tooth ring gear, and

Assuming the above is correct, that it's normal for the bendix to be extended at installation... I was concerned that the bendix on mine is "out", but have found reference on the 3a page that this is normal.

Any input appreciated, before I forge forward and learn the hard way ;)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2017 at 2:59am
The 124 tooth is a Wagon Pickup thing I believe the CJ's used a 129 tooth like mine is.


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I thought 9 tooth was ok with 124 or 129 tooth rings

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When the engine starts it will over spin the bendix and return it, no worries.

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Thanks, Lee... that's what I found, but is counter to what I'm familiar with-

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Originally posted by mbullism mbullism wrote:

Thanks, Lee... that's what I found, but is counter to what I'm familiar with-



If you have a very large wire wheel you can overspin it with that, a trick an old timer showed me many years back!.

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Originally posted by Lee (MN) Lee (MN) wrote:

If you have a very large wire wheel you can overspin it with that, a trick an old timer showed me many years back!.Lee

Thanks for sharing that tidbit!... it continues to humble me that all that I have forgotten is drastically outweighed by that I did not know ;)
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Ugh... just following up on the MDM 6005/124 tooth ring for closure.

It appears I may have the wrong starter :(  According to the graphic below from willysmjeeps, the 9 tooth bendix may mesh with the 124 teeth, but the ring gear diameter is 1/2" less than the 129 tooth given the 3/4" offset of the 124 versus the 1" offset of the 129.


ETA:  more accurately stated, I have the wrong ring gear Confused


Edited by mbullism - 15 May 2017 at 5:34pm
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Just don't do what I did in my Volvo. I left the grocery store and the Bendix drive stayed engaged for the trip home. I thought the electric fuel pump was going out from the sound.
Cooked that one, not even a click out of it later. I usually rebuild them myself but with this one I just set it on the counter, bought another and let them deal with the crispy remains.
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