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Joe, after seeing some of your repair kits and repair assist gizmos on display for sale at the Spring g Reunion I'd say the answer to your question is YES !!

I think you are the one that could produce a quality replacement product..Thumbs Up
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Thanks for the kind words Roc. My shop is slowing down a bit at the moment so guess it's time to make a new gizmo. Big smile
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As per the original start of this thread, and subsequent postings, the aftermarket end caps sold by Walcks for the later style drag link don't work either. I think there would be interest in good quality, accurate rebuild kits that fitted original drag links as they should, including the later style!
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Hmmmm..... Should I be making a correct drag ling kit as well?


Edited by Joe DeYoung - 2 hours 25 minutes ago at 8:21am

Joe - I have some early 2A drag link cores if you need them.
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Joe, if you do the early ones, Sign me up for two....
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Originally posted by rocketeer rocketeer wrote:

As mentioned, make sure they are assembled in the correct order.


Two points to note here:

  • According to the write up, 
"All ball seat springs and adjusting plugs are identical, only difference between front and rear ends being relative location of the springs..."

BUT the labelled diagramme itself references No. 2 as "Adjusting plug - large" and No. 9 as "Adjusting plug - small". So at the very least there is a size difference between the adjusting plugs.
  • There are 2 ball seats (No. 3) shown at the rear, but only 1 ball seat shown at the front. That would mean that the bell crank ball would be between a curved ball seat and the flat face of the front adjusting plug??? Surely either another ball seat (No. 3) is missing in the front OR the front plug has a curved face... which would be another pretty major difference between front and rear adjusting plugs! 
Does anyone know which it is? Does the front plug have a curved face or is a ball seat missing at the front of the diagramme?

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 The large adjusting plug, #2, has a concave face.   BW
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Originally posted by PaulEdm PaulEdm wrote:

I was going to make a tool to use to screw that in, since the slot is much bigger than the biggest screwdriver I could find. 
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I copied this from an earlier post on this site. Thanks for the idea.
We made our own tool using a junk socket. Get a 7/8" long piece of 3/4" x 1/8" bar, stuck in a 17mm six-point socket, weld and be done with it.
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Thanks Bruce. So the assertion that "all ball seat springs and adjusting plugs are identical" is not only false, but pretty misleading too. Confused
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When I got to this stage, I found that the installed drag link was incorrectly installed. I paid close attention to the location of the balls and plugs as indicated in factory manual and (especially) the part list.

I re-used all the original hard parts except the shields and seals. I made the seals from rubber washers and shaped the shields from sheet stock. I also found that a 20 gauge felt wad would work in place of the original felt pads. Had to clean the drag link tube like crazy to get them to fit together and re-assemble.

I re-assembled them in place on the Willys.


Edited by Mike S - 19 May 2017 at 7:41am
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Originally posted by montymech montymech wrote:

Someone commissions its manufacture, someone imports it, someone wholesales it and distributes it, someone retails it etc. Nowhere along the line does anybody think to open the packet and check that it  'does what it says on the box'. The poor sodding end user is the quality controller. Yes we will 'change it for you', yes 'we will refund your money', yes 'you'll have to suffer all the inconvenience and pay return shipping.'  In the UK I have found just one marque specialist that refuses to stock reproduction components until the producers get the specification right. (Triumph TR parts). Most of the others continue to peddle rubbish that is unfit for purpose.
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Originally posted by Mike S Mike S wrote:

I also found that a 20 gauge felt wad would work in place of the original felt pads.

I re-assembled them in place on the Willys.

        What felt pads you talking about? Did mine a few weeks ago used all original parts(except for seals) One thing I found is drag link rod ends are not the same, end to opening are not the same distance. To keep things same as the diagram, One end goes on drag link one on steering sector shaft. At least on my late great 48. I'm almost sure the problem with new parts is metric vs SAE. I'm still a little uneasy about the new wheel cylinders I installed metric mating up to 3/16ths line.
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One end is longer because that is the end where the spring goes "outboard" of the ball. The springs are arranged, one outboard and one inboard. This is so that in the event of an impact with a wheel, such as hitting a rock in the road, one of the springs will absorb the shock. With an impact on the right wheel, the force will pull on the drag link, on the left wheel, the force will push on the link. Either way, the springs take the shock. If both springs were inboard, there would be no cushion for a pulling force, and vice-versa.   BW
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