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    Posted: 11 Feb. 2019 at 1:16am
This is NOT my engine.  I am having my flywheel resurfaced at a local small machine shop.  The owner asked what my flywheel was from and I told him it was a Jeep CJ2a.  He mentioned that he had a Jeep motor that he had rebuilt for a guy who had unfortunately died before taking delivery.  I think he is interested in selling.  I have not seen the motor, but he described it as one that has 'one valve in the head and one in the block'.  

Again, it is not mine, but if anyone is interested, I will ask him more about it when I go to pick up my flywheel this week.
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That would be an F head.  You may want to post this on the CJ3B page.  The 3B used the F head engine.
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https://cj3b.info/  Sorry forgot the link.
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I am not a member on the 3B page, sorry if this is the wrong place to post.
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No need to be sorry.  I think redrunner is just suggesting the 3B Page because the F-Head engine is original to 3Bs, among other Willys vehicles, but not original for 2As.
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Heck, just ask him how much it is & what work he did on it. Then post the reply on this thread. Include his contact information. That way if anyone is interested, they can contact either you or him. 

If it were not so far from me, I might be interested. If it is cheap enough, I might buy it just because.  A "F" head is a bit oddball & I like the oddball engines.  
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Talked to the guy about the engine.  It is NOT a F-head, it is a flat-head 4.  The bill to rebuild it was $1300 and he said he would take $800.  If anyone is interested I will pass along the contact information.
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I'm no lawyer, but is it his engine to sell? The rebuilt engine surely belongs to the deceased guys estate, and the deceased guys estate owes him $1300. If i was him i would hand over the engine and take the $1300 they owed me.....
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Originally posted by JeepSaffer JeepSaffer wrote:

I'm no lawyer, but is it his engine to sell? The rebuilt engine surely belongs to the deceased guys estate, and the deceased guys estate owes him $1300. If i was him i would hand over the engine and take the $1300 they owed me.....


No layer either, but if he rebuilt it for $1300 it’s most likely been stored in the back of his shop for 20+ years at that price!

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Also it is std operating practice for a mechanic or machine shop to put a Lien on unclamed work and depending on the states laws after a period of time (here in Oregon 90 days) said property becomes the lien holders to do with what ever they want.

I bought a 74 Ford F250 with a pretty fresh Hi performance 390 in it that had been brought to the transmission shop down the street to have the transmission rebuilt. Prior to any work starting on the pickup the guy up and dies from a drug OD. The shop contacts the family to tell them to come get the truck or make arrangements to assure the work will be paid for if completed the family said screw it.

The shop put a lien on it and 90 days later it was theirs. He walked right up the street and asked me if I wanted a hell of a deal on an engine for my 66 F-250 that had been sitting in my side yard for 2 years in need of a new engine. I said how much he said $100 but you have to take it all and all at once and now. No hood and no tranny.

I scraped up $100 bucks and had a buddy drag it to my house. In 3 weeks I swapped the engine into my F-250 and got it back on the road. And OH BOY HOWDY that 590 had have been close to 400HP once I put a Torker Manifold and Holley 600 on it. That Pickup truck would flat haul ass. Sold the bed for $175 Traded the front spindles and steering column to a guy for $150 bucks cash and a pair of 68 Chevelle Buckets (I was working on a 66 with no interior at the time. Sold the doors for $40 each at a swap meet and some guy gave me $100 for the front fenders. My son and his buddy enjoyed the porn they found stuffed behind the seat least until I threw it away. They were supposed to be cleaning the cab out. Once we found the needles DAD took over that job. I still have the headlight bulbs and then about a year later some guy gave me $150 for the DANA 60 4.10 that I stashed out back.

Once I had all the good stuff off the truck the guy down the road who scrapped metal came along with his self loader and grabbed the hulk like a log and threw it in his trailer on the way to the metal yard up in portland I handed him the paper work.

I think one of only two vehicles I ever made a cash profit on LOL.
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Most machine shops have a posted policy that any item left in their shop for a certain amount of time will be considered abandoned & it will be sold after that time frame. The time frame is usually 30 days after the work is done.

In many states & provinces, any thing left after 60 days is considered abandoned. As such, the proprietor is free to sell the item to recoup some of their loss.

I suspect that this engine has been sitting in his shop for many years. If it has been many years, the estate has most likely been settled long ago. IME, even with a signed work order, the paperwork to prove that the deceased ordered the work done is a major PITA. Between attorneys fees & court costs, it is rarely worth the hassle to try to get the estate to pay up for the work done. It is IMHO, much easier to eat the loss & try to sell the item for some pay back on the work done.


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I don't know how many years he has had the engine, but he said the deceased's grandson had scrapped all the rest of the Jeeps and parts several years ago.  I am not a lawyer either, but the guy wants to sell it.  
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Logger is correct I believe.
read the shop policy and "notice".
Towing companies are always selling abandoned vehicles that they get stuck with, just like the Mini-Storage-Facilities always selling off units of stuff, which has been abandoned by the lessee tenant.

And, another thought: has the deceased person's Estate been kicking the door-in to pay the shop owner the $1300 Due ? _ _ I don't think so "johnny."

Now, if that engine is available, and it has been rebuilt, that is a hell-of-a-deal of price.
Good luck trying to find an engine-kit for under $800 today.
   And, it may have had USA-made Sealed-Power pistons before they began Out-sourcing to other countries.   

   Markw:   I have to pass on these type of deals all the time, because my wife would sign-me into the "phsyc-ward" if I drag home any more treasures.
I have a 390 that may be a 410, but I have not yet checked the stroke.
Seems to me that it is a '64 block, with '66 heads all in a '71 Ford pickup.
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Greasson, have you asked if he would ship it? Thanks!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote drm101 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb. 2019 at 6:37pm
Michigan has a similar law. I had a small engine business and a guy dropped off a JD 317 and told me to fix everything that was wrong with it and he would be in contact. I called the number he gave me (in Ohio) with an estimate, and his son answered. He said to to go ahead and do the work and he would let his father know. I finished it up (I think the bill was about $200) and called again and left a message that it was ready to pick up. No response. I called 4 or 5 more times and never received a call back. I kept the tractor 2 years, then sold it. The guy called me a year after I sold it and said he was coming to get it. When I told him I sold it, he was very upset and said I would be hearing from his lawyer, and that I had no right to sell it. I explained the law to him AND that I had given him every opportunity to pick it up for 2 years. Never heard from him again. It was very odd, but some people are.
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