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Stev
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Posted: 19 Nov. 2017 at 9:46pm |
These are the NOS M38 floors I picked up. They were made in 1951. The came from Quarter Ton and Military in Chickamauga, GA. They have more of these floors but they have surface rust and cant be shipped because of size. They will cut them down with a plasma cutter for shipping. I will state again that the remaining floor pans have surface rust and will require surface prep if you buy one.
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Stev
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48cj2a
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It aint so unless you have pictures to prove it
Where did you get it?
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Stev
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Picked up the NOS M38 floor panel this morning! The pan has hat channel and the dash panel.
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Stev
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All good in put.
First, I have to admit that this project just got bumped back at least a year. We have a 1949 CJ3A that we did the sheet metal on last year that needed a replacement Frame and the frame followed us home yesterday - so pulling the sheet metal off of the trail Jeep has been bumped from this winters project list. Build priorities change again.
Currently, I a 48" Hi-Lift mounted to the floor in the bed. It basically runs down the transmission hump back to the tail gate - passes under the rear seat - keeps it out of the weather and is bolted to the floor so it will stay put during a roll or bounce (Jpet's tire in the air kind of an event). The roll bar has down riggers that pickup a floor plate that mounts through the floor to the frame cross member. The Jack mounts to the floor plate with a big hasp looking thing with a wing nut. So it stores well, but is hard to remove when you need it. Most of the gents I have wheeled with over the years have a Hi-Lift Jack so there is usually one handy. The Hi-lift jack box idea - I think can be solved - out of the weather, secure in a accident, clean, and not rattling. I don't want to change the look of the Jeep but I want a place to stash the Jack. I am pretty well sold on the M38 floor modification. Edited by Stev - 23 Oct. 2017 at 9:36pm |
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Stev
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Does10s
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Also keep in mind that if the Hi-Lift jack is under the seats in a cool "box", getting it back out would effectively require enough space to have 2 CJ-2As parked next to each other!
Every time I've needed to use my Hi-lift jack, I've been on a very narrow, rutted trail or in some rock garden where there wouldn't have been enough room to remove a jack from that location. Later, Will
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Truth be told, I don't really think you will find a spot in a flat fender Jeep that is big enough when enclosed to fit a full length hi-lift jack......plus seems to me you might just be inducing another rattle.
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leecarr
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A highlift jack is a big chunk of iron to try and hide, you could mount it on the cowl but you wouldn't be able to put down the windshield. If you build a box under the floor you could always put a door on both sides so it would come out either side. If it was short enough you could box in the top of one of the wheel wells and put a door in the back.
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Willy M
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I've thought about one in the front part of the rear floor for storage of whatever. Also MB toolboxes in the rear wheelhouses. I've never had a Jeep with enough storage spaces.
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48cj2a
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that's what gave me the idea...I like it!
I was always wanting to try and graft a tool box lid in the rear floor under the back seat for storage too.
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leecarr
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Like this? I don't mean to hijack your thread but check out mine "Glove compartment in a 2a" in this section. Different location same idea.
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48cj2a
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Back to your original question...
You could probably graft in an M38/MB Glove Box for access yet look like it looks correct. |
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I didn't know this. I need to find a photo of the setup... |
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There's a reason it's called Ol' Unreliable
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leecarr
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I'm using this because I already have it.
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oldtime
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F.Y.I. The CJ-5 uses virtually the very same (2 piece) floor cover as the M38. The CJ-5 floor pan is easily adaptable into any and all 1945-1975 CJ's. It was used with special 2 piece transmission cover and plate for CJ-5 having T98-A. The 1956 T98-A was the original rock crawler transmission and it still remains today as one of the very best for true rock crawlers. |
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leecarr
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The rest of the m38 floor is junk, not enough to save. I'll cut the hole rough then bolt the tunnel on and weld new nuts on then clean up the hole and try and figure out how to bend a small lip around the hole to stiffen it. I like the idea of having more access from the top because it's getting harder to get underneath all the time. That's the plan anyway.
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Stev
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Leecarr,
If I am reading your post correctly you are going to cut away the 2A floor enough to use the two piece transmission cover from a M38. You are not going to install a M38 floor. Interesting. The M38 floor has captured nuts welded to the bottom. Pretty easy to do if the tub is off of the frame.
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Stev
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leecarr
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I'm going to use the big removable transmission tunnel from an m38 in my 2a, I'm also going to put in the front of the rear wheel wells to gain a little seat room for all my fatness.
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Ol' Unreliable
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I have a T-98 I want to put behind my Go-Devil and I was wondering if an M-38 floor would help me, too. My transmission hump area is still in good shape, though and I kinda don't want to cut it. Maybe I should just find an M-38 tub.
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