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ndnchf
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Posted: 24 Nov. 2018 at 7:28pm |
Yes, the outlet lined up with the hole in floor, within 1/4" I'd say.
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Greaser007
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ndnchf:
On the Omix-Ada replacement tank, did the fuel outlet match-up with the original tank for proper location to line-up with the hole in the body-tub ? I need a new tank, which rusted through from the outside-in behind the seat where the leaves collected for decades. I looked into the idea of welding-in a new piece of metal, and after searching the Net for info, I came across a how-to. The guy writing the how-to article said his dad used to weld gas tanks all day after proper prep. His dad said to fill the tank with water until it spills out the fill-cap opening. Then with the water spilling out, and the tank Full, light the fumes at the inlet with a torch. Personally, I think I would be hunkered-down behind a buddy for protection while igniting the fumes. |
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Bob3b
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I did the cement mixer thing and used eastwood tank liner and it looks great still after five years.
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drm101
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I used a motorcycle tank repair kit from Eastwood on my WO carburetor because there were holes in the fuel bowl. 4 years later and it's still holding strong. Do you think a chain in the tank would be a good idea so you don't have to worry whether all the rocks/nuts/bolts etc., come out after cleaning? If you live in SE Michigan and need to borrow a cement mixer, feel free to PM!
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mikec4193
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Crazy stuff right there...good ole American ingenuity at its best...
thanks for posting...
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m38mike
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Muley, that's exactly the filter I need for inside my tank!! Thank you for sharing that with me. I will have to get a pair of these ordered post haste.
BTW, the liner is all dry now and I've got the tank back in the Blue Mule. I put 5 gallons of gas in it and fired up the engine. Found a leak in another gas fitting to be repaired this afternoon. Otherwise I think I'm good to go. I've got a fiber filter in the tank right now, but after seeing the steel filter I'm going to change it out.
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M38Mike
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RICKG
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Hey Mike today I ordered a new in-tank filter for my M38 (stainless steel) and it got me to thinkin about yours we tried to clean in camp @NCR. I talked to John B. @ MWM and he said the fibre type was designed to be throwaway/replace. Once plugged then cleaned they become ineffective (but better than nothing) .
Here's a pic of the later cleanable steel mesh filter. Edited by RICKG - 02 Aug. 2018 at 5:59pm |
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ndnchf
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Ahhh ok, I didn't realize it was an M38.
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1948 CJ2A - It goes nowhere fast, but anywhere slow.
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ggordon49
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I have heard mix feelings on lining a fuel tank with some type of sealant.. Some people say it will eventually start to degrade (sooner rather than later) and start clogging everything back up.... I used the POR15 on a motorcycle tank and everything seems good... I appreciate your ingenuity, we should call you MacGyver
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TateC
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I think he made all the effort because it is an M38 tank and they are not cheap at $425.
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Tate Christensen
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ndnchf
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I don't mean to sound rude, but.... For all the trouble of trying to clean out a 70+ year old tank and ending up with one that may be clean, but will be even thinner than before due to corrosion, why not just get a new one? You can get one for about $150 delivered. Mine was rusty and full of crap. Over the winter a new one was installed, bolted right in. It works great, no more problems.
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Roadmap
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I used a handful of 1/4" nuts and bolts bolts in a tank for my Farmall Cub tractor recently. It worked out very well.
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m38mike
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A lot of folks have mentioned the mixer idea to me. But I don't have one, and don't want to rent one for the little bit of work I wanted it to do. So I improvised. And that worked. The problem my method has is speed control. I've got to be there to regulate the speed. With a cement mixer you just set it on slow and go do something else for an hour. I thought about tossing a bunch of old nuts and bolts in the tank instead of the rocks, but decided to try the rocks instead. I know the rocks worked. I'd bet the nuts and bolts would too.
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M38Mike
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m38mike
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I used the Por15 tank liner in the tank. I bought a quart and after thoroughly mixing it there was still some of the filler material in the bottom of the can. That's OK because I'm mostly interested in coating the steel to keep it from rusting again. I laid the tank down on each side for about 2-3 minutes, then turned it onto another side. I repeated this twice to be sure that the liner got into every corner and across every surface. I drained about a pint of liner back out of the tank. Then I set up a small fan to blow air through the tank to help the liner dry faster. I checked it at about 4 hours and it's dry to the touch. And it looks great inside, very shiny and silvery. Fortunately I didn't have any holes in the tank that weren't supposed to be there. Now that it's super clean and lined, I shouldn't have any more plugged filters unless I get some dirty gas.
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M38Mike
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jeeper50
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I used a couple of large pkgs of BBs instead of rocks and tumbled it and found the tank had way to many holes to fix and opted for a new one for $140.
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Mark W.
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another way to agitate the tank is to use a small cement mixer as they turn nice and slow. My younger brother has a Harley custom shop and has a cement mixer with foam blocks in it to hold tanks so he can spin them with stainless steel pins like used to clean brass for ammo reloading. Works great.
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Chug A Lug
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"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the jeep you've been driving all your life" (Mickey Mantle paraphrase)
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Rick R
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That makes me smile. What a great solution to a common problem.
Good job Mike!
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