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    Posted: 16 Feb. 2017 at 11:16am
Kelly Mfg Charleston W. VA.
 
I wish to recondition these little beauties for use on my 3A project. Have searched the web for info,
exploded drawing etc but no joy. Anybody??


Edited by RICKG - 16 Feb. 2017 at 11:18am
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote athawk11 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Feb. 2017 at 1:00pm
I'm sorry Rick, those are a lost cause.

Just send them to me and I'll put them in my scrap metal pile.Approve
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Interesting items.  Were they mine, they'd be in pieces already, hoping to be re-assembled.
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Rick - I have some Kelly's and also some Cutlass' which look similar.  I never found any info on the Kelly but here is a breakdown page for the Cutlass:

http://www.willystech.com/wt/cutlasshub/Pictures/IPBCcutlass2.jpg

Do the internals look like your Kelly hubs?


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Thx for the link Bruce.  I have not pulled them apart yet, was hoping for a drawing before starting.
There's so little Kelly info out there i'll be sure to document the recondition effort.
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If you can wait a day or three, I've got one I can take apart and document with pictures.
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Thx, no need Bruce, I got started this PM and found I had never seen a more simple/robust const .
When fully cleaned I'll document the reconditioning. I appreciate your interest.
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Re-assembly shown dry for illustration purposes.
Install drive gear and snap ring.
Drop in 6 springs and balls.
Place circular ring.
Push in outer case.
Install top w/screw knob.


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Wow those are sweet.
Thanks for the write up.
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They are nice.  They look like the Cutlas hubs from the outside but are completely different on the inside.
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Hi RickG,

The word "patent" should be stamped onto the face (i've seen it on pics of other Kelly hubs). Is there a patent number also stamped on it? 

I'm working to organize hubs by rough dates and manufacture to better understand their evolution. For example, the president of Denver's Free-Lock hub in the mid 1950s seems to have left to start Cutlas Gear in Illinois, then moved it to Vinton Iowa and renamed it Cutlas Tool. 

The early cutlas hub that looks similar to the Kelly hub has a patent all its own (filed by the president of cutlas at the time), so I'm not surprised it was built differently.

There is a set of Kelly hubs for sale on eBay right now.

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Hi Dave the word "patented" is stamped on the face but there is no number.
 
Yup the set on fleabay has a buy it now price of $200..Shocked
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A little more digging and it seems that Da Ruben L. Beck patented this hub: https://www.google.com/patents/US2874814  It is close, but not quite exactly, like the Kelly Hub. It uses balls and springs in a way similar to the Kelly hub and it has a similar shape. 

What's most interesting is that Da Ruben L. Beck is the same person as D. L. Beck, the person from whom Kelly purchased his top company: https://cj3b.info/Hardtops/Beck.html

If this is correct, and the Kelly Hubs were built from Beck's invention, then the Kelly Hubs were first manufactured in the late 1950s (patent was first filed in 1957 and awarded in 1959). That's my working theory for now .. .thanks for the helpful photos!
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