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GaryArf
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Posted: 28 Oct. 2006 at 11:27am |
From the Third edition Parts List
GROUP 15-05
Coil Auto-lite part # 640135
Cylinder Hurd Part # 644000
Key Hurd Part # 643999
switch Hurd Part # 644001
Screws that held it to the dash are round head 10-32 x 3/4"
physical numbers on the coil are IG-6V - 2 A
" " " " mounting braket are IG4314A
" " " " cylinder bracket are W161
There was no mention of the bracket as a seperate part only a mention that replacement parts will be supplied by Electric Auto-Lite or there service dealers
Gary
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CJ2A #10021 #34692 #58500
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Doug
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The one laying on my PC desk is marked slightly different from Gary's.
physical numbers on the coil are IG-6V - 11B
" " " " mounting braket are IG4314 ("A" could be missing due to an off center strike)
" " " " cylinder bracket are S1711
Edited by Doug - 28 Oct. 2006 at 9:26pm |
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GaryArf
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Doug,
If the Auto-lite markings are similar to the way the did Auto lite generator tags this may hold a clue. On the generator tag the marks were coded with a date code. (courtesy of Todd Paisley)
Month 1-12
1940 - T
1941 - U
1942 - W
1943 - X
1944 - Y
1945 - Z
1946 - A
1947 - B
1948 - C
and so on Sample (on a generator) 5A216426
5 = May (5th Mo.)
A = 1946
Ser. # 216426
Could 11 B on your coil mean Nov. 1947?
One more thing, Is yours a Hurd or a Yale key? that may make a difference in the bracket #'s Edited by GaryArf - 28 Oct. 2006 at 9:47pm |
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CJ2A #10021 #34692 #58500
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Doug
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My Key appears to be non original.
Marked: C RTIS KEY C. CLEVELAND.O. The reverse is marked: MADE IN U.S.A. Y12 The "Y12" leads me to believe the cylinder is a yale. Edited by Doug - 28 Oct. 2006 at 10:36pm |
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wyowillys46
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Here's another link to some info posted by sean.
My coil has CR3033-XS-6V stamped into the side. Mine does not have AUTOLITE stamped in large letters on the side.
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Doug
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Very good info...The rounded face on the Yale vs the more square cut Hurd makes it reasonably easy to tell the difference.
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sean
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Hi y'all:
On the road, checking in after 5 days of travel. IG-4314/a is the Autolite part number for the entire assembly. It just happens to be stamped on the bracket, but the bracket has a separate part number which I can't recall offhand. The coil itself is # CR3033XS. Early ones are not marked CR3033XS, just IG-6v. Don't know when or why the change occured. W161 is a Hurd key code, S1171 is a Yale key code. Might not want to publish those so clearly. The range of key codes is listed in one of the parts lists, '47 or '49. Autolite date codes are just as Gary described. Sean |
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trader_reed
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NOS Yale & Towne keys & NOS Hurd spare tire lock keys
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gwalker
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The assy. number is IG4314A although it was not usually sold as an assembly in service, the auto-lite numbers for each piece are: Coil- CR3033XS Bracket-CE1248S Lock/switch-CE-1331S you can still find the coil through people selling NOS Auto-lite parts but the switch and bracket almost never.
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lowenuf
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just wanted to share a nice little ebay find....complete, never been installed, keys have no scratches on them...low
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45 #10012
45 #10033 ACM #47 45 #10163 ACM #188 57 CJ5 Dauntless V6, T-18 4-speed, D-44 rear/D-30 front, D-20 twin stick |
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jburke2046
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I've been looking for this part for my 1946 cj2a sn 34586 with no luck. Do you have a spare you'd be willing to sell or know of a source?
I don't remember that my original part had the ribs on the body that show in these pictures.
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F Bill
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Can anyone with the yale style coil tell me what the dimension for the OD of the key cylinder area that goes thru the dash is, and whether it is flush or sticks out from the dash? A picture from the key side of the dash would be helpful.. I'm trying to duplicate the look and function with a homebuilt bracket with a modern key switch and coil. Only problem I see in fabricating it is the switches available now have the start and accesory position, where the original I assume only had on and off??
I'll share the results when I get one setup finished..
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If you haven't checked out the tech FAQ section, go to:
http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/tech-faq_forum57.html for a lot of great stuff you need to know!! |
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Roger B
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Bill,
The OD of the cylinder area that goes thru the dash is 7/8" the depth is 6/16" plus the flange in the plate who holds the cylinder OD 1" depth 1/8".
See the picĀ“s in this tread, and you know what I mean.
Roger B
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1946 CJ2A Serial # 22728 Harvest Tan in parts
1947 CJ2A Serial #101548 Luzon Red Only 16000 km 1947? Bantam T3-C Serial # 20006 |
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samcj2a
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Bill,
Gale did pretty much exactly what you are planning. You should contact him for info about what switch he used and so forth.
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David Curtis
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I am doing a frame off restoration of a 1947 Willys CJ-2A; I have the original keyed coil. Are these keyed coils rebuildable, and, if who, do you know of any companies or individuals who will rebuild this? Thanks, David
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F Bill
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Check Trader reed's posts for details on a place in Worcester MA that rebuilds them... Price was near $300 if I remember correctly, and there are other places listed in Hemmings MOtor news as well.
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If you haven't checked out the tech FAQ section, go to:
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ralf
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I always wondered what a keyed coil was. I have three cases of them out in my barn.
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1947 CJ2A
1948 CJ2A 1953 Ford NAA Golden Jubilee Tractor 1941 J-3 Cub 1957 Farmall Cub Low Boy tractor 1942 Clarktor WW2 tug |
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CW48
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David Curtis...You might want to check-out "Atwater Kent Manufacturing" on your favorite internet search. These are the people you are looking for. There has been some previous discussion on their accuracy, but they seem to be OK.
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