Koenig winch question

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   I have a question for the Koenig pto winch owners out there. I am reassembling a Koenig winch and have a question about the brake/clutch mechanism. The handle locks in place when the brake is on  (see first picture) but the handle does not lock in place when the drum is engaged (see second picture). It hits a tall bolt head which I am not sure is original. Without locking in place when the drum is engaged, it looks like it could slip out during operation which would be bad. 

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markcl52 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 04 Dec. 2015 Location: Mass Status: Offline Points: 286	Post Options Post Reply Quote markcl52 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Koenig winch question Posted: 09 Aug. 2017 at 3:53am
	I have a question for the Koenig pto winch owners out there. I am reassembling a Koenig winch and have a question about the brake/clutch mechanism. The handle locks in place when the brake is on (see first picture) but the handle does not lock in place when the drum is engaged (see second picture). It hits a tall bolt head which I am not sure is original. Without locking in place when the drum is engaged, it looks like it could slip out during operation which would be bad.

Ol' Unreliable Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 25 Sep. 2016 Location: CO Springs CO Status: Offline Points: 4226	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ol' Unreliable Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug. 2017 at 4:16am
	Replace that bolt with a button head and see if it works.
	There's a reason it's called Ol' Unreliable

markcl52 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 04 Dec. 2015 Location: Mass Status: Offline Points: 286	Post Options Post Reply Quote markcl52 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug. 2017 at 4:31am
	I guess I forgot to ask the question. Is it supposed to lock in the engaged position? I'm sure that replacing the bolt would do it but not sure if it is supposed to lock in place. Thanks

oldtime Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12 Sep. 2009 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 4184	Post Options Post Reply Quote oldtime Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug. 2017 at 3:25pm
	Yes the engage handle must lock into place when it is engaged (downward ) . You obviously used the correct special bolt to attach the lever bracket to the winch block. But it looks like you may have added a lock washer underneath the original bolt head ? Edited by oldtime - 09 Aug. 2017 at 3:28pm
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markcl52 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 04 Dec. 2015 Location: Mass Status: Offline Points: 286	Post Options Post Reply Quote markcl52 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug. 2017 at 4:27pm
	Oldtime, thanks for confirming that it needs to lock in place when engaged, and also that the special bolt shown is correct. I can remove the lock washer and that will probably get it to fit. The lock washer was on there when I got it, so I assumed it was original. I'll ask another question while I have your attention. The worm shaft is a little grooved/pitted at the seal. I replaced the seal, filled with 140w lube and it leaks. I could have screwed up the seal during assembly, but it could also be the sealing surface. Any experience with a leaking seal? Should I try a new seal or look into a speedi sleeve? Thanks

oldtime Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12 Sep. 2009 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 4184	Post Options Post Reply Quote oldtime Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Aug. 2017 at 12:29am
	Right on . remove that lock washer... As you noticed the 1-1/4" drum shaft is not sealed. The worm gear shaft is another story and possibly two . Ha Ha Ha ! I'm going to guess this winch to be a PTO driven Koenig 100 as opposed to the rare electric Koenig 100. I say this because the PTO drive and the electric versions use notably different input shaft designs. Yes it is certainly possible that you damaged the worm shaft when installing albeit unlikely. In other words it is most likely that the pitted worm shaft is leaking at the area of damage. Easiest potential remedy is to move seal further inward or outward hopefully making contact with an undamaged area of worm shaft. Edited by oldtime - 10 Aug. 2017 at 12:32am
	Currently building my final F-134 powered 3B . T98-A Rock Crawler using exclusive factory parts and Approved Special Equipment from the Willys Motors era (1953-1963) Zero aftermarket parts