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    Posted: 06 Nov. 2009 at 4:38pm
A few days ago, I started thinking about all of the parts on CJ2As that were not produced by Willys. There are a lot of them!  I started compiling this list, which gives the part and the manufacturer.  Obviously it is far from complete (there are a number of parts missing)

COMPONENT
MANUFACTURER
LOCATION
Engine Block
Wilson Foundry & Machine Company
Pontiac, Michigan
Frame
Midland Steel Products
Cleveland, Ohio
Springs
Mather Spring Company
Toledo, Ohio
Carburetor
Carter Carburetor Company
St. Louis, Missouri
Radiator
Harrison Radiator Corporation
Lockport, New York
Front and Rear Differentials
Dana Corporation
Toledo, Ohio
Fuel Tank
Mitchell Metal Products, Inc.
Cleveland, Ohio

O. L. Anderson Company Inc.
Detroit, Michigan
Body sheet metal
American Central Manufacturing Corporation
Connersville, Indiana
Rims
Kelsey-Hayes Company
Livonia, Michigan
 
Motor Wheel Corporation
Lansing, Michigan
Shock Absorbers
Monroe Auto Equipment Company
Monroe, Michigan
Generator
Electric Auto-Lite Company
Toledo, Ohio
Coil
Electric Auto-Lite Company
Toledo, Ohio
Starter
Electric Auto-Lite Company
Toledo, Ohio
Distributor
Electric Auto-Lite Company
Toledo, Ohio
Spark Plugs
Electric Auto-Lite Company
Toledo, Ohio
Early Marker Lights
Corcoran Brown Lamp Company
Cincinnati, Ohio
Headlamps
Corcoran Brown Lamp Company
Cincinnati, Ohio
Tail Lamp
Corcoran Brown Lamp Company
Cincinnati, Ohio
Oil Filter
Fram Corporation
Providence, Rhode Island
 
Purolator Products, Inc.
Newark, New Jersey
Steering Box
Ross Gear and Tool Company
Lafayette, Indiana
Transfer Case
Spicer Manufacturing Company
Toledo, Ohio
Transmission
Warner Gear Company
Muncie, Indiana
Fuel Pump
AC Spark Plug
Flint, Michigan
 
Carter Carburetor Company
St. Louis, Missouri
Steering Wheel
Sheller Manufacturing Corporation
Detroit, Michigan
Horn
Electric Auto-Lite Company
Toledo, Ohio
 
Sparks-Withington Company
Jackson, Michigan
 
Schwarze Electric Company
Adrian, Michigan
 
E. A. Laboratories Inc.
Brooklyn, NY
Air Cleaner
Donaldson Company Inc.
St. Paul, Minnesota
 
Houdaille Heshey Corporation
North Chicago, Illinois
Reflector
Corcoran Brown Lamp Company
Cincinnati, Ohio
Wiper Motor
Trico Products Corporation
Buffalo, New York
Freeze Plugs
M.D. Hubbard Spring Company
Oxford, Michigan
Master Cylinder
Wagner
 
Wheel Cylinders
Wagner
 
Brake Backing Plates
Bendix
Elyria, Ohio
Speedometer
King-Seeley Corporation
Ann Arbor, Michigan
 
Electric Auto-Lite Company
Toledo, Ohio
Other Gauges
Electric Auto-Lite Company
Toledo, Ohio
 
Stewart Warner
Chicago, Illinois
Drive Shafts
Spicer Manufacturing Company
Toledo, Ohio
Clutch Disc
Borg & Beck
 
Clutch Pressure Plate
Auburn Manufacturing Company
Middletown, Connecticut
Tires
B. F. Goodrich
 
 
Goodyear
 
Seat Springs
The Universal Wire Spring Company
Cleveland, Ohio

What other parts did Wilson Foundry Make? Does anyone have any additions/corrections?

Brandon




Edited by bgirmus - 06 Nov. 2009 at 4:41pm
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That's a great topic, Brandon.  Off the top of my head, there was a second clutch pressure plate supplier, but the name is escaping me.  Someone else should chime in now that I've mentioned it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Nov. 2009 at 5:21pm
Great list Brandon!  Where did you find the info?

Correction:

Radiator - made by "Jamestown" (perhaps Harrison & Jamestown were related)

Additions:

Radiator cap - AC
Fan blade - "Hayes"
Steering Drag Link - Columbus Auto Parts

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And, one mystery that remains is who supplied the original battery cables!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bgirmus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Nov. 2009 at 7:45pm
Sean,

Thanks for the feedback.  Pretty much all of the info was obtained through searches on google, the G, and this forum. 


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Hi,
Great job,Hard work but useful...
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some missing parts - water pump, bell crank, battery, oil pump, motor / transmission / transfercase mounts, speedo cable, hand brake cable, headlight switch, windshield glass

Some additions that I think are correct.
Wheel Bearings - Timken
Drive shaft and Transfercase yokes - Spicer
voltage regulator - Electric Auto-Lite

Great post! It could get pretty long if list every part, but we need something to do during the winter!

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Originally posted by russnj russnj wrote:

... It could get pretty long if list every part, but we need something to do during the winter!
It would be simpler to list parts definitely made by Willys.  I think it would look something like this:

   

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I think Sean makes a good point. I feel like it's a prettty common misconception that parts (for any of the manufacturers, not just Willys) were made 'in house'. Costs would be astronomical without subcontracting the parts out and production would be slowed dramatically.
 
Still an interesting list and like Russ said, something to do this winter.
 
 
 
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The other clutch pressure plate supplier I was trying to remember is Rockford.  When I looked in the parts list, though, I found that the Auburn clutch was superseded by the Atwood clutch which, in turn, was superseded by the Rockford clutch.  Although I think I remember one of the manuals back in the day distinguishing between procedures for the Auburn and the Rockford, it seems that the Atwood came between the two.  Also, only someone with access to BOM info could tell us if anything other than the Auburn was actually used in production since the parts list could be superseding items for the sake of replacement parts as opposed to documenting changes in suppliers during production, at least, when there is no serial number given for the change.

Edit:  I found what I was recalling.  I had two manuals back in the day.   One was an MB manual given to me by my childhood/teenhood postman who was had been an Army mechanic.  Later, I got a manual from W-O when I visited the factory.  Now I have a reprint of one similar to the later manual.   It says in J-1 on page 155, "Model CJ-2A and DJ-2A are equipped with the Auburn clutch.  Models CJ-3A, CJ-3b, CJ-5 and CJ-6 are equipped with either the Auburn or the Rockford clutch."  Then it goes on the describe differences.   So, forget my blathering about a second clutch supplier for the 2A!


Edited by samcj2a - 07 Nov. 2009 at 3:39pm
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Originally posted by samcj2a samcj2a wrote:

The other clutch pressure plate supplier I was trying to remember is Rockford.  When I looked in the parts list, though, I found that the Auburn clutch was superseded by the Atwood clutch which, in turn, was superseded by the Rockford clutch.  Although I think I remember one of the manuals back in the day distinguishing between procedures for the Auburn and the Rockford, it seems that the Atwood came between the two.  Also, only someone with access to BOM info could tell us if anything other than the Auburn was actually used in production since the parts list could be superseding items for the sake of replacement parts as opposed to documenting changes in suppliers during production, at least, when there is no serial number given for the change.

Edit:  I found what I was recalling.  I had two manuals back in the day.   One was an MB manual given to me by my childhood/teenhood postman who was had been an Army mechanic.  Later, I got a manual from W-O when I visited the factory.  Now I have a reprint of one similar to the later manual.   It says in J-1 on page 155, "Model CJ-2A and DJ-2A are equipped with the Auburn clutch.  Models CJ-3A, CJ-3b, CJ-5 and CJ-6 are equipped with either the Auburn or the Rockford clutch."  Then it goes on the describe differences.   So, forget my blathering about a second clutch supplier for the 2A!
 
regarding the clutch section:
 
Willys seldom listed actual manufacturers of parts, this being the case with the clutch assemblies and sub parts...
 
they specified the nitty gritty on sizing, and assembly parts, it was up to the suppliers to supply the parts, per Willys approval...
 
after each line item, in parenthesis, Willys simply stated "As purchased".....
 
 
edit:   the '45 maintenance manual specifies just as you stated Sam, it spells out the usage of the Auburn pressure plate, and spells out the use of the Borg & Beck 8 1/2" clutch disc...


Edited by lowenuf - 07 Nov. 2009 at 3:56pm
45 #10012
45 #10033 ACM #47
45 #10163 ACM #188
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Originally posted by lowenuf lowenuf wrote:

. . . .
 
regarding the clutch section:
 
Willys seldom listed actual manufacturers of parts, this being the case with the clutch assemblies and sub parts...
 
they specified the nitty gritty on sizing, and assembly parts, it was up to the suppliers to supply the parts, per Willys approval...
 
after each line item, in parenthesis, Willys simply stated "As purchased".....
  Hmm, very interesting!   So, with Willys approval, some errant fuel pump supplier could have slipped in some glass bowl pumps, eh?  Big smile
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Originally posted by samcj2a samcj2a wrote:

 Hmm, very interesting!   So, with Willys approval, some errant fuel pump supplier could have slipped in some glass bowl pumps, eh?  Big smile
 
quite possibly :)  if one was to take notice, the fuel pumps with the metal bowl ARE the exact same AC part number.....and as long as the glass bowl did the job on the same fuel pump, i am sure Willys turned a blind eye....   <---no pun intended by me of course ;)
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No, I'm sure no pun was intended by you!    Wink

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Edited by samcj2a - 07 Nov. 2009 at 4:17pm
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Thelander manufactured clutch pressure plates.
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I have what I believe to be an original battery cable;  on the flange is stamped:  Whitaker 455-31
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Harrison is listed as radiator supplier.....they also supplied the heater.
 
 
 
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master and wheel cylinders are Lockheed Wagner
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