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    Posted: 14 Nov. 2017 at 1:56pm
I just got back from a work trip to Nigeria. The country is full of old Peugeot 404 light pickups, especially in the rural areas, most likely dated from the '70's through to the '80's. Apparently these vehicles just NEVER give up!

The local guys weld up everything they can to reinforce the suspension, springs, chassis, body work etc, and then load them up - apparently they haul 2 tons in the back! (4,400lb). And according to Wikipedia, this is all with a 1.6 litre engine (91 cubic inch) producing 53kW or 71 bhp.

Best of all is the air filters apparently restrict the airflow and reduce performance, so they all run with no air filter.... that's right folks, they run them with an open carburetor! Bear in mind that these are not on tarmac freeways, but dusty dirt roads. Are we just to kind to our little CJ2A's?




Here is the engine bay....  note the open mouthed carb!



Clap Who gets the credit? The Nigerians for keeping these cars running regardless of everything they throw at them, or the French for designing and making an indestructible car?

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A friend of mine's dad growing up had a four door version of that (ironically that same color).

What we always were astounded by was the 'FOUR on the tree' column shift.

They must be pretty tough it held up mechanically to avoid bit of 16-17yr old driver abuse.



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What's odd about it is that Peugeot has a pretty bad reputation here in the US. 
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Don't ALL cars not made in the USA have a bad reputation there? LOL
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My Volvos have all been fine but us Volvo people don't talk about that era when they were running them French V6 engines. Piles of them blocks in the junk yard.
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Didn't Deloreans have Peugeot drive trains? Or Saab, I forget.
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You fooled me. I thought I was going to see Willys Pickups. Cry
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Originally posted by JeepSaffer JeepSaffer wrote:

Don't ALL cars not made in the USA have a bad reputation there? LOL


Not so much, Volvo, Subaru, Toyota, & for some of us, the air-cooled VWs, have good reputations.Smile

I am sure that I left some out.

IMHO, Peugeot, OTOH, will not make the list. They have too many quirky systems to be easily accepted by most car owners. The four on the tree comes to mind.


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A lot of cars that were made in the US have bad reputations here, too.  To some crazy people, Jeeps have a bad reputation. 
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Thanks for posting!, I was unaware Peugeot made a truck, LOL..... Junkyards are full of vehicles, good and bad, mostly ones poorly maintained or wrecked. Buy what you can afford and take care of it!

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Originally posted by Lee (MN) Lee (MN) wrote:

Junkyards are full of vehicles, good and bad, mostly ones poorly maintained or wrecked. Buy what you can afford and take care of it!  

Nigerians seem to take you literally. They buy what they can afford from the junkyard, and then run the engines on dusty roads with no air filters and camels in the back!!!









OK, I'll stop kidding around now. I live in Africa so I can spill the beans on the prevailing thinking... It goes something like this:

"My vehicle is worth very little or nothing, so it is literally pointless maintaining it. Every day that it can do work for me is a day that I earn something while spending nothing on it except for the fuel to drive it".

Kinda makes sense in a strange 3rd world way, right?

Also explains why some folks spend thousands of dollars on their Jeeps and then trailer them from show to show Shocked. So the logic works in reverse in 1st world countries too...


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I'd like one!, the loads they are carrying are impressive!.
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The mid 30's thru '40s are pretty neat looking little trucks (repowered of course)



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Originally posted by leecarr leecarr wrote:

Didn't Deloreans have Peugeot drive trains? Or Saab, I forget.

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Originally posted by JeepSaffer JeepSaffer wrote:

Originally posted by Lee (MN) Lee (MN) wrote:

Junkyards are full of vehicles, good and bad, mostly ones poorly maintained or wrecked. Buy what you can afford and take care of it!  


Nigerians seem to take you literally. ..



That's not really my point! I meant Take Care of It!, that would include an air filter of some type. I've been told 3-4 ounces of dirt will destroy an engine, I'm pretty sure the camels do not spend much time in the truck But like you said, it's Nigeria

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I love the pictures, thanks guys!

You do know what the camels are for right? You have heard of spare tires? Yes?

Having been in "3rd world" countries, I do not doubt that those camels get some ride in the truck time. Nor do those loads surprise me at all.

I have seen broken leaf springs repaired in the field with a large hammer, a block of ironwood, & a fire. Think blacksmith. They must have got the annealing & tempering right, as it lasted two years that I know of. 


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I spent time in Nigeria 15 years or so ago. I remember driving through Port Harcourt and going past a mechanics shop in steady rain. The shop consisted of a big fellow holding a partial garbage bag over a wooden bench about 3’ long. The mechanic was straddling the bench and rebuilding carburetors from a box of mismatched stuff. The “tire” shop was selling bald tires with many cords showing through-but they did hold air.
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