Speedway tire?

One2baja wrote: ....How much was the tire and what was the shipping?

https://www.performanceplustire.com/antique-tires/speedway-truck-or-military-tire/speedway-truck-or-military-bias-ply-tire/ty:Antique:ts:750-16/

One tire, cost $131.44, soup-to-nuts.

How many people are running the Coker tires in the NDT or knobbyand what's there opinion on them.

I will be replacing all four very soon. Would appreciate all opinions. I was considering Firestone:

Edited by Steelyard Blues - 19 Jan. 2018 at 4:47am

... so, here's the deal:



Left, STA 700-16 (used) - Center, Speedways 750-16 (new)- Right STA 750-16 (used)



The STA tires are the Firestone version but made from the same company. As you can see, the STA tires have been heavilly used and have lost some on the original diameter.

The Speedways tire is only 30" tall at full inflation (not 31.8 as advertised) The Firestone STA 750-16 measures 32" tall.

STA 750-16 tread width is 6-1/2":



Speedways tread width is 5-1/2":


STA 700-16 is 5-3/4" wide:


Notice how much the sidewalls on the Speedways tire are ballooned out? This one is mounted on a 6" wide wheel. Speedways, calls for a 6" wide wheel for these tires but they are simply not wide enough IMO. They would be more suited for a 4" wide wheel. These tires are not as wide as my 700-16 tire and it took a strap to get the tire to seat on the beads.

Durometer: I do not have a tool for testing how hard or soft the rubber is, but I pushed on the rubber with a stylus and I can feel no difference between these tires and either of the STAs. Not scientific I know but if there is a difference, it is not obvious like it is comparing an STA tire and a swamper.

.... so as a 750-16, this tire will not work for me. I sent my findings to Speedways and asked them to send me the "true" sizes for their 900-16s. Who knows, maybe those are the 33" tires I've been looking for.

Edited by jpet - 26 Jan. 2018 at 5:15pm

...trying to get good information on 900-16s is very hard. The only place I can find in the US who carries them is Performance Plus. I asked them to go out in the warehouse and measure one, but they were not cooperative. I'm guessing my social disorder is kicking in .... .... anywho, this is there address:

Performance Plus
3910 Cherry Ave, Long Beach, CA 90807

... is there anyone following this thread who lives in that area and can go over there and measure one for me? If so, take some pics. I'm looking for overall diameter, width of the tread, and with of beads.

... I know this isn't the same as what they are inflated, but it is the best I have. The information could at least tell me if I want to pursue it.

Thanks!

The building is just around the corner from where I work but they have been out of business for a while mow. I think Mr. Wallace has passed on.

Ah, OK didn't know...thanks

For what most of you will use these tires for, the Speedways will likely meet your needs, and are a good value, but as Jeff requested, I will try to translate the comments. My comments are in BOLD

Speedways wrote: Hey jeff you can go on line to www.speedwaystyres.com to look at catalog  i sold a bunch to texas buddies ( Yes, if you trust the internet, a quantity of tires was sold to a Texas Agricultural tire dealer that bought a mixed container, and then distributed them )   i sold militaries in guatamula ( Sold tires in Guatemala)  and venusian army ( Sold tires to Venezuelan Army) mexico and chile  the tire is a better made compound (to compound a tire properly, you need carbon black. To mix carbon Black and the oils, you need mixers such as Banbury's. Very big, very expensive, not visible in the Google Earth images of the plant these tires are made in. ) we just don’t chase the special tire part of it they are used off road around world (Specialty tires, or the Vintage Tire business, is focused on producing an 'exact' copy of a tires that came as original equipment on Vintage autos for high quality period correct restorations. The Coker Firestone may be a good example. It is made from a new mold that was produced from the ORIGINAL Firestone drawings, with all sidewall stamping details identical to the Firestone tires used at the Ford plants that made the GPW Jeep during World War II. It is not intended to be sold to Central American militaries for use today. volume not big enough to dot change mounds for in usa since it’s tube type, (DOT = US department of Transportation - National Highway Transportation Safety Administration) so the molds do not have treadwear indicators and do not have to have high speed durability certification, or any plunger energy tests)  san marcos texas tire factory used to sell a lot (this is a tire dealer)  and i sold museums (sold to museums) and vets in houston memorial (sold display tires to a Veterans Memorial) they love them over the 120 sta tire which is probably more now (they love them more than the $120 STA tire, STA = Specialty Tires of America)  i see about picture they are rim and tire regulation size ! (He will try to get you a picture, they meet Tire and Rim Association industry dimension, which by the way are for 'grown' tire dimensions. Bias tires get larger after break-in, and off road versions are larger Overall diameter than 'Highway' tread designs of the same size due to deeper tread) We have most advanced mixing facility and extruded in world and build 2 of them. ( I don't have enough information to comment other than I doubt it. Tire compounds are very different than shoe soles) STA uses old dico plant went broke in 80’s. DICO was an Agricultural Tire manufacturer that was driven out of business by the dumping of offshore products in America. It is not uncommon for small niche tire companies to purchase the assets of other bankrupt businesses. i been doing this 32 years  father founded tbc and (Maybe this TBC? In 1956, a purchasing group of tire retailers formed Cordovan Associates. The Company changed its name to Tire & Battery Corporation in 1972. Only eleven years later, after much success, Tire & Battery Corporation went public (NASDAQ: TBCC).  i built tire mound facility in 87 for hankook  father inlaw thought goodyear and michelin how to build mounds (I'm thinking that he may mean 'taught' them how to build  Molds? if so, this is a very misleading or downright false statement)  and i worked for director of worldwide racing in 80’s when we made high speed radials (Who is we? Speedways? Does that mean they no longer make high speed radials? I don't recall seeing any at F1 or Nascar Races lately.) We have a more optimized cavity and it make tire handle better ( a tire 'cavity' is the shape or profile of the cross section. For steel belted radials, or some large fabric bias belted tires, the shape of the mold can be used to improved the tire footprint or contact patch. The contact patch can be modified for long wear, good traction, or durability. This doesn't apply to 2 ply Nylon bias belted tires (4 or 6 ply RATED) so he's not talking about the tires you are interested in.   don’t think that old dico plant has the technology

He may be referring to the old McCreary plant in Indiana Pennsylvania operated as STA. They do not manufacture high speed/speed rated Performance passenger tires, but they do make the STA and Firestone/Coker products.

I ordered one for testing.[/QUOTE]

Jeff - look more carefully at the Performance Plus Website...