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    Posted: 22 July 2017 at 9:39pm
I stumbled across a very nice tilt bed trailer with brakes.  Jeep fits perfectly on it.  At $750 plus a few hours of cleaning up the harness and some other minor odds and ends I think it was a steal.  All the lights even work.  It has a max load capacity of 5500 #.  It also fits my tractor perfectly.  The sand is on the back of it as I had not installed the lift strut yet and that is what was required to balance the pivot.  More than likely the jeep will actually ride backwards as it will produce a better weight balance over the axle. 




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That was a steal!, I've been pricing trailers, an aluminum like yours with 5500 lb capacity and brakes are $5000 and some change.

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Very nice trailer.  

But, loading the Jeep on it with the engine behind the single trailer axle could cause some handling issues.  I'd be very careful about how it was balanced like that.  It's a bit of a balancing act with single axle trailers.  
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Your top photo has the center of gravity just ahead of the axle.  You want that, so the tongue weight is 10-15% of the gross weight.
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Good looking M38.  Looks like a handy trailer too.
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Some say that the fore/aft center of gravity in our jeeps is very near the transfer case. I've used that as a guide and it seems to work well. I did scale my CJ2-A once and IIRR, the front weight was 51% of the total, with 49% on the rear, so turning it around won't make much difference.  BW
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The CG as documented on the M38 data plates is 36.5" from front axle CL unloaded.
 
 
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Originally posted by RICKG RICKG wrote:

The CG as documented on the M38 data plates is 36.5" from front axle CL unloaded.
 
 
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Thumbs Up  And that's only 3.5" away from halfway to the rear axle CL. Makes me think the transfer case is further back than that? Where's my tape measure?  BW
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Originally posted by Bruce W Bruce W wrote:

Originally posted by RICKG RICKG wrote:


The CG as documented on the M38 data plates is 36.5" from front axle CL unloaded.
 
 
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Thumbs Up  And that's only 3.5" away from halfway to the rear axle CL. Makes me think the transfer case is further back than that? Whersrre's my tape measure?  BW

Depends on the transmission and all of the other gear boxes. My old MB manual had the CG about 6" in front of the doors and 8" above the body bottom. YMMV. I load with a bit more weight to the front. Cain't hoit. I always have heavy ends of tractors loaded with the heavy ends to the front, ahead of the axles.

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Originally posted by Unkamonkey Unkamonkey wrote:

Originally posted by Bruce W Bruce W wrote:

Originally posted by RICKG RICKG wrote:


The CG as documented on the M38 data plates is 36.5" from front axle CL unloaded.
 
 
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Thumbs Up  And that's only 3.5" away from halfway to the rear axle CL. Makes me think the transfer case is further back than that? Whersrre's my tape measure?  BW

Depends on the transmission and all of the other gear boxes. My old MB manual had the CG about 6" in front of the doors and 8" above the body bottom. YMMV. I load with a bit more weight to the front. Cain't hoit. I always have heavy ends of tractors loaded with the heavy ends to the front, ahead of the axles.
 
Ok how bout we stick with the CG of an M38 since that's what he's loading.. not mb's or tractors..
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All sound advice.  The biggest problem I had was not the trailer, it was my truck.  The trailer originally has some crazy trailer brake controller on it that would not interpret what the truck was sending it and would immediately lock up the trailer wheels regardless of speed or setting.  Once I removed that controller from the trailer then the brakes would not work at all.  After hours and lots of descriptive language I found out that my truck will not apply trailer brakes below 11 mph, which made my attempts to test everything rather frustrating while stationary.  Everything is now working as it should to include my understanding of my trucks systems.
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I was just describing what was in my MB manual as I remember it. I was driving a dump trailer over to a friends house loaded up with broken concrete and every time I turned on the right turn signal, the trailer brakes locked up. Just a part of life.
We fixed it and his truck wiring. My Kenosha brake controllers work great.
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It would appear the problem I was having was the trailer was designed for a vehicle that did not have a brake controller in it, as a result the 7 blade plug only had 4 blades on it and the trailer would do the interpreting for braking.  Once I set it up so that the truck was responsible it took care of the problem. 

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That trailer looks like a sweet little....WITCH Wink
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Very nice trailer. Looks like it could haul twice the weight your putting on it. I like it !
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Those Ditch Witch trenchers are heavy, great trailer for your jeep.

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I love that the trailer is narrow. It does limit it for some things, but the bed is only 62" wide. It makes towing it down the narrow roads by me super easy. It is only as wide as the pickup towing it. It is built like a tank. It is 2100# empty. The tilt-bed is also super nice for loading. 
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That's a great find. I'll need to watch the postings around here. Well done.
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