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    Posted: 27 Apr. 2017 at 8:33pm
What type of Safety wire do I need to rebuild my transfer case? Aluminum? Stainless? 12ga? 18ga? 

Can anyone make a recommendation also does anyone recommend a thread locker? Or will loctite do the trick?


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threadlocker by locktite is great stuff, my transfer case sliding gear square bolt was secured with bailing wire, with a few twists to keep it together, too many twists and you'll break the wire at the twist. having used miles of safety wire in the aviation industry you don't need fancy pliers for your twists, hand twisting works fine on jeeps. 

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I wouldn't use bailing wire, it may work for a lot of repairs but it maybe to big to fit the holes on the anchoring bolts. Go with stn. stl. and it will work better. I have some at home and will look at what gage it is.
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http://www.malinco.com/aerospace-lockwire.html

I use stainless, it can be brittle...
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Locktite will do fine but look over on the motorcycle sites. If you are going to race a bike there are parts that need wired on and I have seen kits for that listed. The wire and the tool to twist it. If you want to go to an extreme, go out the your local county airport and talk to an aircraft mechanic.
Personally, if I felt the need to wire something, I would use some wire from my MIG welder.
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Plain old mechanic's wire.
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Originally posted by 1947-cj2a 1947-cj2a wrote:


I wouldn't use bailing wire, it may work for a lot of repairs but it maybe to big to fit the holes on the anchoring bolts.
                        1947-cj2a....You have to know they make more than one diameter balling wire? Bailing wire is very malleable(soft) which is what you want. Some metals "work harden" when bent which can cause brakes. The safety wire also prevents losing any bolts. Not as much of a concern on the jeep but different story for jet engines.
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Most hardware stores have small rolls of wire that you could use. We mostly used .032 size wire on C 130 aircraft even on the engine mount bolts when I was in the USAF. The wire should be run where it is in the tightening position side of the bolt.

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Seems to me that give all we're doing is trying to stop a bolt from turning if it loosens, virtually ANY wire should do it.  The force of the bolt spinning is negligible.
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Originally posted by cal.bar cal.bar wrote:


Seems to me that give all we're doing is trying to stop a bolt from turning if it loosens, virtually ANY wire should do it.  The force of the bolt spinning is negligible.


   If safety wired correctly the bolt cant turn unless the wire breaks or stretches.

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Like rocketeer said, use plain mechanics wire available at your local auto parts store.
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I use mig welding wire too.
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I would add that you should use stainless wire just so it won't rust.
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As an aircraft mechanic, I have lots of cans & spools of stainless safety wire. I would use either .020, or .032 safety wire. Which ever one that is not too large in diameter.

My grandpa left me a large spool of copper wire that he used for safety wiring item on his farm. The tractor has this copper wire on the bolts that hold the transmission together. I would worry that the copper could work harden over time, & break. OTOH, I have never found any of his wire jobs that failed.

Seriously, Try going to your local General Aviation airport & talk to the mechanics out there. If you tell them you want some for your 1948 CJ-2A, they might just give you some. I would. For that matter, PM me your address, & I will mail you some.

I also would guess that any malleable wire would work.

As far as Loctite, I highly recommend it.

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