What winch and winch mount?

Stan,

smfulle wrote: .... I've never seriously looked into mounting it because I love my overdrive enough not to want to mess with it.....

Winches get you stuck deeper.      

I think this ones as good as it gets for a PTO winch.

Edited by oldtime - 17 May 2017 at 12:43am

SO not trying to talk anyone into anything. BUT the neatest winch I have ever seen was made from an Old REO 3HP Horizontal shaft lawn mower engine it was mounted on the front of a 62 Wagon. The guy was pulling up Big Cedar fence posts used to anchor the Guy wire that they used to grow Pole beans on. In one day with a tripod like set up that winch pulled over 100 posts out of the ground. The posts had been in the ground for 3 months and were about 30" into the ground which was watered and dried every day for those 3 months as the Bean were grown and then picked 3-4 times.

He had a little hand throttle on a cable like a detached motorcycle throttle and a forward neutral reverse lever.

I would take the cable and wrap it around the base of the post and with the cable going up over the tripod about 4ft tall he would rev it up and up would come the post. He had the Wagon sitting about 30 ft from the posts so he could pull a half dozen or so before moving the wagon. That thing ran for about 2 hours at a throw.

He said it would pick the Wagon clean up off the ground. I have no idea how powerful it was but I could tell it wasn't working hard doing the work.

I have been interested in a gas powered winch ever since. There is a Chainsaw engine powered unit I have thought about building a mount for that could go on either the front or attach via the 2" Receiver I have on the back of Chug. Or could even be attached to a tree or other mounting point and used away from the Jeep.

My old Bellview was mounted so the fair lead rollers are below the front bumper on my Commando. I've hit it a few times.
The Koenig on the 3B is above the bumper. It's a very heavy bumper set up that I have used to push dump trucks and move 30 yd dumpsters. I have never hit any rocks or anything with it that I didn't mean to hit. I did sort of run into a tree once but it was to be used as a belay point so I could winch out a Toyota with a broken front axle shaft.
The old M6000 is too fast at times and no power out. My vote goes to a PTO and the 3B is also running an OD. It's a little tight over on the drivers side of the motor but it works quite well.

Yeah Stev yet the fairlead still sets notably up above shackle height.

One thing to keep in mind if you're not building stock and using something like flexy Holbrook springs is that you may want to install a sway bar and a REALLY low mounted winch may produce some engineering problems with that.  That and my pitman arm and drag link are close to the frame rail on the left side and in front of the grill.  Both would contact a winch mounted more than a inch or two below the bumper.

The Koenig requires something like an inch and a quarter extension of the front bumper to fit. I did some work with a tape measure to see about fitting in a Saginaw steering box and I'm not sure I can move the winch over enough and still clear the motor with the driveshaft.
Nobody has yet touched on hydraulic winches. Sort of the same problems as a PTO. Your motor has to be running unless you can come up with a battery powered pump.